Have you done your 10,000 hours?

[timothyallan]

DrX - GRB told me in a PM that he did your mom last night and she's NOT naturally talented.

Best shit stirring comment ever.

[WFWS]

I read that stuff with some interest. Its not enough to say you need 10K hours. Expertise also requires a quality of practice- not just going thru the motions. 10,000 hours of deliberate learning, working on what you don't know and aren't good at in a deliberate and methodical fashion- that's what's required to develop expertise.

I've been playing guitar for way more than 10K hours, but I still am just an advanced amateur. That's mostly because I didn't deliberatly work to improve weak areas, and methodically build skills. I just 'played'. I'm not disappointed, but I sure do practice more deliberately now.

But I have to say that I do find the over all axiom to be true. About that many hours and you start to get good.

Wayne C

[ghostly]

So what if you are sitting on 9,999 hours, does that make you shit still? And then, bam!, you creep over 10,000 hours and are suddenly a master of your craft. I wonder what was done in that last hour, best bottle it.

[the_antagonist]

is this hours or pounds/dolars?


im still working on my 1000 true fans

[DrXparaMental]

I read that stuff with some interest. Its not enough to say you need 10K hours. Expertise also requires a quality of practice- not just going thru the motions. 10,000 hours of deliberate learning, working on what you don't know and aren't good at in a deliberate and methodical fashion- that's what's required to develop expertise.

I've been playing guitar for way more than 10K hours, but I still am just an advanced amateur. That's mostly because I didn't deliberatly work to improve weak areas, and methodically build skills. I just 'played'. I'm not disappointed, but I sure do practice more deliberately now.

But I have to say that I do find the over all axiom to be true. About that many hours and you start to get good.

Wayne C

To me, this post pretty much seems like the bottom line minus what I have already gone to lengths to add concerning natural inclination. No amount of time is an assurance of anything, although it is without question one of the essential basic ingredients.

It's also important to narrow things down tremendously. There is no such thing as a "master musician". If there were "master musicians" there would be exams to which great length of one's capabilities would have to be tested to a exceptionally scrutinized capacity.

It would seem that if a person were a true master musician, that individual would be qualified to teach at least 5 different types of musical application categorically. IE. Jazz/Classical/Rock/Funk/Salsa.

It's just insane to even consider. After 10,000 hours you MAY (with all the right stuff in place to begin with)be able to achieve mastery in one select area, but that's about it.

I would be willing to bet that if you were to ask 5 virtuosos if they considered themselves "masters" of their craft, they would reply an unequivocal and resounding, NOPE. There is no artistic ceiling.

One of the silliest things I have come across in my life is the notion of those that feel they are somehow "expert musicians" because they are "professional musicians". There is zero defining correlation between the two.

[H20nly]

Om

Aum

However you want to spell it. We are all master musicians.

The song is LIFE.

[the_antagonist]

deep man.... deep

[Tone Deft]

Om

Aum

However you want to spell it. We are all master musicians.

The song is LIFE.

no, some people fail at that too. check the entire MTV TV schedule, George Bush...

[H20nly]

the entire MTV TV schedule, George Bush...

Oh yeah.
Nevermind.
I guess I was just delerious. Morning here, was sleeping not so long ago.

Where were we?
Some people pop out of mom with instrument in hand...
the rest of us struggle and strive.

Please forgvie me... Continue...

[Tone Deft]

DrX's first bass was his umbilical cord.