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Johnisfaster wrote:I'll say it again: it's a mistake to assume that the way it is now is the way it will always be.

Somebody should have distributed that message to the Muslims about 1,400 years ago.

beats me wrote:

Johnisfaster wrote:I'll say it again: it's a mistake to assume that the way it is now is the way it will always be.

Somebody should have distributed that message to the Muslims about 1,400 years ago.

Israel.

you know, Hitler tried to put an end to legacy artists...

4/4 wrote:

beats me wrote:

Johnisfaster wrote:I'll say it again: it's a mistake to assume that the way it is now is the way it will always be.

Somebody should have distributed that message to the Muslims about 1,400 years ago.

Israel.

I see this thread developing a good b story arc.

heh, I'm just sayin.
You picked the wrong demograph to make your funny.

*moonwalks out of the intellectual pow-wow*

beats me wrote:

Johnisfaster wrote:I'll say it again: it's a mistake to assume that the way it is now is the way it will always be.

Somebody should have distributed that message to the Muslims about 1,400 years ago.

and away we go!...........

beats me wrote:

Johnisfaster wrote:I'll say it again: it's a mistake to assume that the way it is now is the way it will always be.

Somebody should have distributed that message to the Americans about 200 years ago.

fixed!!!


sounds like some feelings are getting hurt in this thread. simply put beatsme is right and you guys know it. you can't just lobb the 'you're too old man' stone at'em and think it's as simple as that. the truth is that things have changed in every aspect of society, what makes you think music is any different.

you know that the quality of weapons/science has changed and now it's easy to end
the world

less people are learning instruments

less people are learning how to sing

less quality music is being published

reality tv has taken over the mainstream

news is now more commentary than fact

being a dj is more popular than ever in history

truth is that history doesn't just repeat itself, groups like flying lotus and the like are not ever ging to be even close to the stones michael jackson james brown elton john metallica bb king, you might think so while you're high at your littlelightshow festival but you're dillusional. there might be more legacy artist
but this generation won't produce them. the changes and effect technology has had on us should be in the least obvious to all of us, it's like saying all of the things we use that is made of plastic is better quality than all of the stuff that same stuff used to be made out of. because of technology.....haahhahahaha


don't think so

Yes, things have changed. Things alway change.

But, people always have their idols, icons and golden calves to worship.

This is constant and continuous since history was recorded.

Music will evolve, Film will evolve, but there will always be "Stars"...we need them.

Can you really argue with this?

I think someone will certainly try.

Damn. Been awhile since we seen a good ole' Godwin's hasn't it?

Does anyone seriously want to be as famous as Micheal Jackson? If you took all his $ and split it between this forum (fame too) we'd be set. that's cool with me. Everyone now can have their 15 minutes now if they deserve it. If you make quality you will be rewarded.

You don't need to know theory or anything esoteric really to make quality either. I fucking hate that attitude. "no one wants to learn music.. uhh ... uhhh. blah.."


old people seem to be the maddest that they will never get to be as big as their idols.

and... Shitty music inspires me to make music too. In fact, I can't really think of that (except for ye ole' poony poon) which gives me the feeling to stop or complain about others doing it...

And we can find as much quality as we can get our hands on. Why is that bad? ohhhh wait, because certain folks feel "entitled" since they choose to do art. It couldn't possibly be your fault no one is listening to your music? it's the industry and the consumers and the kids...

I call bullshit!

^sorry

leedsquietman wrote:Nathann - how did Kraftwerk suck in the 70s and 80s. They inspired practically everyone who ever made synth music. They made their own electronic drums (none existed before this, or at least not commercially), their own hand built vocoder (only super expensive Roland vocoders as used in tracks like 'I'm Not In Love' by 10cc in big studios existed) and 'Autobahn' is frequently quoted by both early generation synth acts like Gary Numan, Depeche Mode, The Human League, OMD, etc through to more modern stuff acts like Venetian Snares who quote them as an influence.

They sold tons of albums and even had hit singles in Europe, such as The Model which was #1 in the U.K. Most people consider those early albums as their peak, music that had not been heard before, something new - and most people consider their albums from around post 1985 when they were dicking around with remixes a lot and not producing new original sounding music, but just adopting the technology and sounds of the day as their nadir.

http://waveformless.blogspot.com/2009/1 ... -tube.html

Citizenchis I think linked this brilliant BBC Documentary 'Synth Britannia'. Watch at least the first 4 parts of this 10 part youtube clips (around 8-10 mins each) to see how influential Kraftwerk were. Europeans especially know this.

what i meant was, from what i have read and seen, kraftwerk was looked at as a joke.. now they are considered living legacys...
the key words are "from what i read and have seen" (seen as in documentary's) idk though i wasnt alive in the 70's and i didn't really get into music till the 90's. my point was, you never know what is going to be considered a legacy in the future.


to chili d or whatever..

what does being in your 20's have to do with "being in the loop?" there are so many people in there 20's that know way less than other people in there 30's and up about music.
i hate when people talk about youth like it gives you some great insight on good music. age isnt shit.
im in my 20's pretty soon i will be in my 30's and around the corner from that i will be 80..
what you suddenly dont know what is going on when you are out of your 20's?
you have to interact with people in there 20's to still be with it? almost everyone i know in there 20's is musically retarded just like most people of any other age group, and i would never trust there opinion on good music.

i have a sister who is 18,she has great taste in music but her friends really dont give a shit..

age has nothing to do with it.

nathannn wrote:

leedsquietman wrote:Nathann - how did Kraftwerk suck in the 70s and 80s. They inspired practically everyone who ever made synth music. They made their own electronic drums (none existed before this, or at least not commercially), their own hand built vocoder (only super expensive Roland vocoders as used in tracks like 'I'm Not In Love' by 10cc in big studios existed) and 'Autobahn' is frequently quoted by both early generation synth acts like Gary Numan, Depeche Mode, The Human League, OMD, etc through to more modern stuff acts like Venetian Snares who quote them as an influence.

They sold tons of albums and even had hit singles in Europe, such as The Model which was #1 in the U.K. Most people consider those early albums as their peak, music that had not been heard before, something new - and most people consider their albums from around post 1985 when they were dicking around with remixes a lot and not producing new original sounding music, but just adopting the technology and sounds of the day as their nadir.

http://waveformless.blogspot.com/2009/1 ... -tube.html

Citizenchis I think linked this brilliant BBC Documentary 'Synth Britannia'. Watch at least the first 4 parts of this 10 part youtube clips (around 8-10 mins each) to see how influential Kraftwerk were. Europeans especially know this.

what i meant was, from what i have read and seen, kraftwerk was looked at as a joke.. now they are considered living legacys...
the key words are "from what i read and have seen" (seen as in documentary's) idk though i wasnt alive in the 70's and i didn't really get into music till the 90's. my point was, you never know what is going to be considered a legacy in the future.


to chili d or whatever..

what does being in your 20's have to do with "being in the loop?" there are so many people in there 20's that know way less than other people in there 30's and up about music.
i hate when people talk about youth like it gives you some great insight on good music. age isnt shit.
im in my 20's pretty soon i will be in my 30's and around the corner from that i will be 80..
what you suddenly dont know what is going on when you are out of your 20's?
you have to interact with people in there 20's to still be with it? almost everyone i know in there 20's is musically retarded just like most people of any other age group, and i would never trust there opinion on good music.

i have a sister who is 18,she has great taste in music but her friends really dont give a shit..

age has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. Unfortunately, you've been out of the loop since birth.

Hugs

Emissary wrote:
NO ONE! and thats GOOD!
music is about the music not about some bunch of ageing rockers banging out the same tunes for 30 years.

Sorry, can't be fucked reading 8+ pages of this when yer man here has already nailed it...

On and up with it all...