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Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:36 pm
by H20nly
Tone Deft wrote:if cats could write hit tunes can you imagine just how arrogant of a cnut they'd turn into? imagine the demands on the rider.
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Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:40 pm
by Angstrom
crumhorn wrote:Even if an intelligent self aware computer exited that could write music, what would it write music about? What would be it's inspiration? and would anybody be interested in listening to it beyond it's novelty value?
wait. wat?
have you heard what is out there, being produced and listened to by humans.
music 'about' , 'inspiration' , 'novelty value'. I think you are overestimating human creativity and taste.
just ... listen
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-sta ... ?id=701314
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-sta ... id=1279752
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-sta ... id=2128455
Now tell me that humanity is inspired to create and appreciate art beyond the wit of machines. I'm betting a 486 with 32meg of ram could think up a better set of songs than that lot.
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:42 pm
by Tone Deft
crumhorn wrote:Actually, my cat is going deaf so he would be the cat equivalent of Beethoven.
how can you tell if a cat is going deaf? it stops listening to you and ignores its surroundings?
(sorry to hear the little dude isn't doing well, just a joke.)
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:54 pm
by crumhorn
Tone Deft wrote:crumhorn wrote:Actually, my cat is going deaf so he would be the cat equivalent of Beethoven.
how can you tell if a cat is going deaf? it stops listening to you and ignores its surroundings?
(sorry to hear the little dude isn't doing well, just a joke.)
pretty much, yeah. Just doesn't look up when I make kissy noises any more. He's still pretty alert in every other way though, so I don't think it's a mental thing.
Also he started doing this loud wailing from time to time which is apparently a sign of deafness. He stops it as soon as you look at him.
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:09 am
by crumhorn
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:29 am
by Angstrom
Oh yeah,
I'm not saying there's no artistry out there, I'm just saying there's also a giant market for uninspired and unoriginal process-based music.
crumhorn wrote:would anybody be interested in listening to it?
they already do
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:43 am
by crumhorn
Angstrom wrote:Oh yeah,
I'm not saying there's no artistry out there, I'm just saying there's also a giant market for uninspired and unoriginal process-based music.
crumhorn wrote:would anybody be interested in listening to it?
they already do
I know, it's a sad fact for sure. I get the feeling that some people see music as just a fun feature to play with on their latest electronic gadget.
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:30 am
by Mixikyr
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Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:07 pm
by cmcpress
the way music is going music will be obsolete before musicians.
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:31 pm
by oddstep
You should listen to some better music.
Re: Won't advances eventually make musicians near obsolete?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:33 pm
by Angstrom
I bet we could look down our "most recently played" tunes and categorise them as "could easily have been created by machine" or could not have been created by machine.
looking down mine, unless somebody is writing an AI that collides Iggy Pop with Leonard Cohen and Brian Eno they are out of luck.