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re:dream wrote:

derzai wrote: i fully agree with you when you say this is not a macho locker room for making derogatory remarks about woman.

that's just wrong and boring.

TomViolenz wrote: And that you think that derzai was neither bragging nor creating a locker room atmoshere, just shows how desensitized you already are.

"I'm not a racist, but....."

Same pattern.

Not at all

You are imputing a whole lot of motivations to a person based on one sentence fragment. Perhaps you should check your assumptions, is all I am saying.

morning.

re:dream wrote:Not at all

You are imputing a whole lot of motivations to a person based on one sentence fragment. Perhaps you should check your assumptions, is all I am saying.

Sorry, but no!

You can't say: I find a macho locker room atmosphere boring and then continue with:
My girlfriend likes to swallow my load. (Used in a discussion about misogynie as an argument no less.)

That you have a hard time understanding this concept somewhat baffles me to be honest.

But if you are so interested in defending his behaviour, please elucidate for me in how far Goddards post differed from this.

(I had asked you this question before btw.)

ON my reading, Goddard's intention was to be offensive.

derzai's intention was to make a point that was relevant to the conversation.

That's one big difference.

Secondly, I must confess that while I do find people sharing intimate details of their sex life on the ableton forum is a little bit too much information, the content of what he shared honestly did not seem to be offensive to me. Plenty of people - male and female - do like oral sex; some of them (apparently) like swallowing semen. I could tell you my own preferences, but, as I said, I don't want to overshare. Point is, it's a big world out there. Tastes, um, differ. There are people who like stuff that I don't like. Who am I to disagree?

I acknowledge that you read it differently from me. You seem to have a powerful emotional reaction to derzai's (over)share. That's also fine. People differ. But I am just suggesting that you consider whether some of your reaction might be related to your own assumptions, interpretations and projections.

Anyhow, I am repeating myself. It does not seem as if you are willing to consider that, and this discussion is in danger of getting into a yes it is/no it ain't kind of battle. So I will try not to go on with this & bore everyone even more.

But to be honest, I am not interested in discussing this further with you guys. I said my piece and am as usual the only person on one side of a debate.

But please consider actually talking this over with your woman. Show her this thread and ask her what she thinks. If I'm correct then she will be less than pleased with how a conversation about women is conducted here. If I'm wrong, go ahead and write this here as well, I would certainly care to hear her perspective on this.

Ok this just came in while I wrote my last post:

re:dream wrote: Plenty of people - male and female - do like oral sex; some of them (apparently) like swallowing semen. I could tell you my own preferences, but, as I said, I don't want to overshare. Point is, it's a big world out there. Tastes, um, differ. There are people who like stuff that I don't like. Who am I to disagree?

I agree with the TMI and I see no purpose of this "information" in a discussion about misogyny except to build up a strawman and to frame the whole debate about sexism as a matter of, well, sex.

So as I see it he wanted to nothing but offend as well (and brag about the sex he may or may not have had)


But as I said above, I would like to bow out of this "discussion" now, because I can see where it will lead...again!

Well, when he gets back from his mountain ride he will hopefully clarify his intentions.

Where does the old 'thumb up the pooper' fit into this discussion? Besides up the butt, of course.

One mans braggery is another mans declarative sentence.

LoopStationZebra wrote:Where does the old 'thumb up the pooper' fit into this discussion? Besides up the butt, of course.

I know it's not a serious question, but I can't help myself....

-You tell us that you like it up yours? TMI, but otherwise fine.
-You tell us you like to do it to women (but not telling us if they let you)? Again mainly TMI and we get ito a serious locker room atmo.
-You tell us that one sl*** of a girlfriend liked it? TMI, locker room and a serious breach of trust (IMO of course)

-You use this as some sort of argument in a discussion about misogyny...?! Well, see this thread for what I think about that....

How do you get through your days without just blowing your brains out?

LoopStationZebra wrote:How do you get through your days without just blowing your brains out?

It ain't easy, but guns not being readily available here makes it a lot easier.

Thanks for your concern though

sometimes when i get oral sex, music comes out of my swollen member.
sometimes people approach me about it and they're like "HEY! turn that music down!"
and i would if i could, but after it happens i can't move.

I was told the other day that my penis snores. Is that normal?