touchAble 3 is out! Now connects via simple USB cable & more

[Stromkraft]

Only thing missing in my eyes is drum rack sub channel control, but this problem seems to be on abletons side if i understand correctly.

…chain extraction. This makes the chain a full-on track outside of the drum rack, but can still be played from there.
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how do you manage track arm?

Recording patterns
I either record to the drum rack track with extracted drum chains set to "in" and/or work on individual patterns within the chain. If the latter I treat the extracted chain as any other track. I send my all drum rack chains to a separate drum buss as the drum rack track stops being a buss for extracted chains.

If you extract chains with existing patterns the clip will be split up per chain. If you have existing extracted chains, like I have in my default template, you can uncheck "Exclusive [Arm]" in the preferences and record patterns to new chain split ones multiple at a time. Or record directly on the chain from Push while on the chain/track, the only difference being moving between tracks with the arrows, instead of just switching the pad.

Upsides
The big upsides to me with separate patterns per voice are different grooves and swing can be applied per voice and each voice can be frozen separately. As I use a softsynth as the major drum sound source on a slower machine that's big. Especially as I typically process each drum voice to get the sound I want.

Most importantly I can send drum voices to the same returns as other tracks and vice versa. I can also leave some drums in the drum rack if I want to treat them as before and just keep some extracted chains if I prefer that.

[jestermgee]

Hey jestermgee,

there is an issue with Apples latest iTunes 12.1 update and their Apple Mobile Device Service - deinstalling iTunes 12.1 and reinstalling 12.0.1 will fix this issue for the moment. We are investigating what causes it! sorry for the inconvenience :/

Certainly did fix my issue, cheers.

Just invested in the Live templates. What a neat piece of goodness this all is.... Wish I had room on my desk for an ipad.

[Cowlash]

is anyone else on OS X getting their system log flooded with error messages like this:

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4/02/2015 3:38:13.712 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: SCEDeviceSocketCallback Client 0x10200cdf0-touchAble/NULL connect to 0x36 failed, connection failed with error 61 - Connection refused
4/02/2015 3:38:15.710 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: MuxTCPInputSCE received RST for 0x39-e088ce68b2b2da60fb2d6e32b772f193869b5f5e@0x80412000:2345->0x1004093e0-touchAble/NULL:29195: handleConnectResult: failure - 61
4/02/2015 3:38:15.965 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: SCEDeviceSocketCallback Client 0x100405b20-touchAble/NULL connect to 0x36 failed, connection failed with error 61 - Connection refused
4/02/2015 3:38:17.783 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: MuxTCPInputSCE received RST for 0x39-e088ce68b2b2da60fb2d6e32b772f193869b5f5e@0x80412000:2345->0x10200cdf0-touchAble/NULL:29451: handleConnectResult: failure - 61
4/02/2015 3:38:18.219 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: SCEDeviceSocketCallback Client 0x100605c30-touchAble/NULL connect to 0x36 failed, connection failed with error 61 - Connection refused
4/02/2015 3:38:19.859 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: MuxTCPInputSCE received RST for 0x39-e088ce68b2b2da60fb2d6e32b772f193869b5f5e@0x80412000:2345->0x1004093e0-touchAble/NULL:29707: handleConnectResult: failure - 61
4/02/2015 3:38:20.470 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: SCEDeviceSocketCallback Client 0x10200cdf0-touchAble/NULL connect to 0x36 failed, connection failed with error 61 - Connection refused
4/02/2015 3:38:21.000 pm kernel[0]: System Events (map: 0xffffff8043bd90f0) triggered DYLD shared region unnest for map: 0xffffff8043bd90f0, region 0x7fff85c00000->0x7fff85e00000. While not abnormal for debuggers, this increases system memory footprint until the target exits.
4/02/2015 3:38:21.936 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: MuxTCPInputSCE received RST for 0x39-e088ce68b2b2da60fb2d6e32b772f193869b5f5e@0x80412000:2345->0x10200cdf0-touchAble/NULL:29963: handleConnectResult: failure - 61
4/02/2015 3:38:22.698 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: SCEDeviceSocketCallback Client 0x1022050e0-touchAble/NULL connect to 0x36 failed, connection failed with error 61 - Connection refused
4/02/2015 3:38:24.012 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: MuxTCPInputSCE received RST for 0x39-e088ce68b2b2da60fb2d6e32b772f193869b5f5e@0x80412000:2345->0x10200cdf0-touchAble/NULL:30219: handleConnectResult: failure - 61
4/02/2015 3:38:24.636 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: _SendAttachNotification Device b0:34:95:11:0f:5c@fe80::b234:95ff:fe11:f5c._apple-mobdev2._tcp.local. has already appeared on interface 4. Suppressing duplicate attach notification.
4/02/2015 3:38:24.726 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: SCEDeviceSocketCallback Client 0x100405c50-touchAble/NULL connect to 0x49 failed, connection failed with error 61 - Connection refused
4/02/2015 3:38:24.775 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: SCEDeviceSocketCallback Client 0x100307d30-touchAble/NULL connect to 0x36 failed, connection failed with error 61 - Connection refused
4/02/2015 3:38:26.089 pm com.apple.usbmuxd[64]: MuxTCPInputSCE received RST for 0x39-e088ce68b2b2da60fb2d6e32b772f193869b5f5e@0x80412000:2345->0x10060d9f0-touchAble/NULL:30475: handleConnectResult: failure - 61

Hey fishmonkey,
these messages appear whenever the ipad is plugged in, but touchAble is not running / connected. It is in fact simply a message telling us that we can't reach the app via USB at this time, so we can try again. However, to ensure quick reaction times when you open the app, we put this reconnection on a 2 second timer - which is the flood of messages you see there. We can't hide this message as it's burried deep in Apples framework, but we will issue an update shortly that is silent when you quit the Server completely - even if it's just for reading the Console log!

Hope it's not too much of an issue for you right now!
Cheers,
Chris

I'm having a similar issue with Windows 7

[mothergarage]

there seems to be a problem with the latest itunes version...

[Stromkraft]

there seems to be a problem with the latest itunes version...

On Windows only? I don't see why exactly iTunes would be involved in the operation of Touchable, though possibly their computer software rely on it or code that it installs? I don't like that apps rely on iTunes. I use iTunes as little as possible.

[yur2die4]

Ipad uses itunes in order to 'tether' for Internet. They found a way to take advantage of that tethering to repay their code through the network connection of the tethering. Without itunes allowing tethering, it won't work.

I don't know if they maybe changed the way iTunes handles tethering and inter-communication between touchable and the touchable software installed on the computer.

[Stromkraft]

Ipad uses itunes in order to 'tether' for Internet. They found a way to take advantage of that tethering to repay their code through the network connection of the tethering. Without itunes allowing tethering, it won't work.

Other apps that do similar things don't piggyback on iTunes AFAIK. Relying on the iTunes framework is putting your product at risk.

[yur2die4]

You can do it without itunes wirelessly by simply installing the rtp midi (been a while, forget if that is what it's called), but when you connect the ipad to the computer via usb, it is pretty closed off except for pictures and videos.

You can access samples and stuff from other apps, Through iTunes, and you can use the iPad as an Internet source to tether your internet but it can only be done through iTunes.

So, if I am not mistaken, touchable is at the mercy of iTunes for wired connectivity. I think also, by default most ipad connection might think something along the lines of "this ipad is receiving and sending Internet via a means, most preferably a phone service, I shall have a tether option". If you have a device without service, I'm sure that tethering options become a bit more murky (like you might have to make the app trick iTunes and ios into thinking it has an Internet service). If that is the case, I think it's a pretty daunting matter.

These are just speculation though. I could be way way off. Maybe the ip they use is kind of like a server concept or something.

[Stromkraft]

So, if I am not mistaken, touchable is at the mercy of iTunes for wired connectivity.

Yeah, you might be right there actually. I was thinking more on Wifi, where it should be possible to send any kind of command over the normal IP network form an app. With a wire connection there are probably more limitations. I hope they overcome this problem with 12.1.

[Matt_Quinn]

Hey jestermgee,

there is an issue with Apples latest iTunes 12.1 update and their Apple Mobile Device Service - deinstalling iTunes 12.1 and reinstalling 12.0.1 will fix this issue for the moment. We are investigating what causes it! sorry for the inconvenience :/

Certainly did fix my issue, cheers.

Just invested in the Live templates. What a neat piece of goodness this all is.... Wish I had room on my desk for an ipad.

Do you happen to have a link to that version on iTunes? It;s not on the Apple download page (I need 64 bit). I found what looked like a legit link here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us

...but it won't let me finish the installation. This is annoying. Can I use Itunes 11?

[Matt_Quinn]

Yeah, this is really frustrating. NO other version of iTunes will complete installation other than 12.1 on this computer. It gets 99% of the way there, then rolls everything back. Going down to 10 didn't work either. So since I can't get Itunes 12.0.1 64 bit for windows, I just can't use Touchable this weekend. Shit.

[Mark_T]

Download link for Itunes 12.0.1 64 bit for windows:
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/download-revi ... 110-64-bit

[mai]

Is there a way to lock the touchable rectangle to the push rectangle? Like you would if you were using multiple iPads with touchable? I'd like it to follow push so I can launch clips with push but read the names of the clips with touchable.

Yes you need the LaunchSync Enabled scripts from touchAble and our LaunchSync device...

http://www.isotonikstudios.com

I would like to know this, too. But do I need M4L for that?? Is there an other way to sync touchAble's and Push's rectangle (without M4L)? Any help would be much appreciated.

[S4racen]

Yes you need Max4Live to achieve it...

Cheers
D

[mai]

Thanks for the answer - and there is no other solution? I'm not sure, but wasn't there a script from NativeKontrol (Stray)?