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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:18 am
by musick
sweetjesus wrote:... you can add a button which would choose whether or not the clip follows the new global timing. ....
Maybe also an opportunity to deal with the 'orange dot'....
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:07 pm
by Stefan Haller
astar wrote:couldn't you just a have a keyboard key used as a modifier..
i.e.: modifier+spacebar
We already have both shift and option as modifiers with spacebar (shift for "continue rather than restart", and option for "play arranger selection").
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:16 pm
by djsynchro
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:58 am
by astar
Stefan Haller wrote:astar wrote:couldn't you just a have a keyboard key used as a modifier..
i.e.: modifier+spacebar
We already have both shift and option as modifiers with spacebar (shift for "continue rather than restart", and option for "play arranger selection").
how about shift+option+spacebar?
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:14 am
by Cache
to be honest, this start-in-the-middle-of-the-beat is such an unwanted feature, that putting it in the options.txt is prob the most desirable.
no point in coding a fancy user interface for something that people seem by majority not to want.
i vote for putting a line in options.txt :
ClipStartWhereStopped=1
something like that. lets keep it simple and use the dev time to fix the remaining bugs.
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:57 am
by madlab
Cache wrote:to be honest, this start-in-the-middle-of-the-beat is such an unwanted feature, that putting it in the options.txt is prob the most desirable.
no point in coding a fancy user interface for something that people seem by majority not to want.
i vote for putting a line in options.txt :
ClipStartWhereStopped=1
something like that. lets keep it simple and use the dev time to fix the remaining bugs.
How do you use Live ? (nothing personal)
Can somenone explain briefly how that options.txt works, or point me to a link.
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:51 pm
by pbajzek
I don't see why this would have to be in the Preferences pane. Couldn't it be available in a dropdown menu, like Plug in Delay Compensation?
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:57 pm
by Cache
madlab - i use live during gigs in Session view.
playing a mixtiure of tracks and clips.
i want all my clips to start at the beginning (retrigger)
in the studio, i use session view then move over to Arrangement view when i'm ready to start putting stuff down permanently.
The options.txt is how the developers have their extra settings for Live. none of them really *need* to be changed. but it is one possible way to incorporate extra functionality without a GUI change.
i think there is something on the Ableton site about options.txt and also on this forum.
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:16 pm
by Angstrom
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:35 pm
by telekom
LOFA wrote:
I personally like supster's idea about clip behaviour settings. But that does suggest that it is a desirable clip behaviour which users will access frequently to vary start/stop options. It doesn't sound like many people want to be able to vary this on a daily basis...
Also, doesn't the "starts in the middle of the beat"
option relate to clip behaviour as controlled from a recorded arrangement?
If Stefan is reporting that Ableton are not prepared to make this an "easy-to-reach" user modification, can we at least have the default behaviour of Live set to OFF for the crazy starts-in-the-middle clip behaviour? I don't want to start messing around with option.txt just to get Live to play in a sensible way...
My 2p.

And thanks for listening Ableton. Ask first next time!!!

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:46 pm
by Boxenschrott
Please Ableton , change it and let start the clips at 1.1.1.
when someone like others, make a change option, but first give an update or patch, to let start clips at the 1.
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:46 pm
by funk313
when is the FIX available??
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:39 pm
by Machinate
I wouldn't expect anything until
NAMM
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:53 pm
by Angstrom
yep, quiet = busy
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:46 am
by funk313