WirelessPocketPC MIDI Controller Ended

Coupe70 · Post by **Coupe70** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:11 pm

What a great idea !!
No idea why I didn´t see this thread before...
I don´t know anything about PocketPCs at all. What kind of
machine do I need ? Don´t want to hijack this thread, so perhaps
someone can PM me so I can ask some questions...
Will something like this work ?
http://cgi.ebay.de/O2-xda-II-Handy-Orga ... dZViewItem

telekom · Post by **telekom** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:07 pm

great thread! well done gafferuk, it's really good to see this evolving so well. Somebody just mentioned it, but the 'tactile' factor - your app and a palmtop pc would be great alongside the faderfoxes if the app could act as a wireless conduit for the fox.

keep it coming - I'm not palm user but I think this is a really inventive and creative idea.

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:40 pm

Coupe70 wrote:What a great idea !!
No idea why I didn´t see this thread before...
I don´t know anything about PocketPCs at all. What kind of
machine do I need ? Don´t want to hijack this thread, so perhaps
someone can PM me so I can ask some questions...
Will something like this work ?
http://cgi.ebay.de/O2-xda-II-Handy-Orga ... dZViewItem

Yes you could use it but that pocketPC won't work that far a distance because it's bluetooth. Look for a PocketPC with WIFI.

You can't go far wrong with a ipaq or dell.

Coupe70 · Post by **Coupe70** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:09 pm

so what are the minimum requirements ?
how much RAM do I need ? how fast does the processor have to be ?
what is the needed operating system called ?
is WIFI something like WLAN ?

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:26 pm

Coupe70 wrote:so what are the minimum requirements ?
how much RAM do I need ? how fast does the processor have to be ?
what is the needed operating system called ?
is WIFI something like WLAN ?

Ram? My app so far only uses 14M so any amount of ram should do.
Processor? About 350 Mhz+
Operating system? Windows for pocketPC 2003 or higher.
Wlan is WIFI.

Your want a screen resolution of 240x320 for best fit.

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:30 pm

Heres latest screenshots:

[old image removed]

Im currently building 'Learn' feature so can map controls to your existing MIDI hardware.

Coupe70 · Post by **Coupe70** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:37 pm

Sorry for asking again - i have really no idea...
Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 (coming with a PDA
mobile phone) is something else than Windows for
Pocket PC or is it ok ? As you said Bluetooth is not
very good, can I use something like this:
http://www.electronicscout24.de/catalog ... MDAwMDAwMA
What is the cheapest solution ?
Thanks!

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:50 pm

Coupe70 wrote:Sorry for asking again - i have really no idea...
Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 (coming with a PDA
mobile phone) is something else than Windows for
Pocket PC or is it ok ? As you said Bluetooth is not
very good, can I use something like this:
http://www.electronicscout24.de/catalog ... MDAwMDAwMA
What is the cheapest solution ?
Thanks!

Windows Mobile 2003 is fine.

You could use that wifi card device with a pocketPC but it does cost a bit.

A cheap phone would be something like:

http://cgi.ebay.com/iPaq-hx4700-PocketP ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-New-NIB-Veriz ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-iPAQ-PocketPC-41 ... dZViewItem

As long as it has windows 2003 and wifi and at least a 350+ mhz processor.

Coupe70 · Post by **Coupe70** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:06 pm

ok, just one more feature question concerning the software and then
i will shut up: is the usb-connection usually provided by a cradle only
working when the cradle is connected to a power socket ? if not and given
you have a battery powered usb-midi-keyboard (like alesis photon). would
it be possible to program a "capture" of played midi notes and directely
send them over wlan ? so that would give you a wireless midi keyboard...

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:31 am

Coupe70 wrote:ok, just one more feature question concerning the software and then
i will shut up: is the usb-connection usually provided by a cradle only
working when the cradle is connected to a power socket ? if not and given
you have a battery powered usb-midi-keyboard (like alesis photon). would
it be possible to program a "capture" of played midi notes and directely
send them over wlan ? so that would give you a wireless midi keyboard...

Im not too sure what you mean? If you mean connect the Midi keyboard to the pocket pc so you have a wireless keyboard, good idea but no, the pocket pc has no standard usb port and i doubt you could get any drivers.

Coupe70 · Post by **Coupe70** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:35 am

yeah, that´s what i meant.

never mind, cool software idea anyways !

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:43 pm

Been a long weekend and i've done loads.
Been playing on my software all weekend and my trigger-pad's are great.
Unless you have around 600 buttons to launch clips you DO NOT know what ableton live is about. Ive been creating music like never before!!
I can launch about 4 clips at the begining of a beat real easy which can't be achieved with just a mouse.
Im just speechless with what iv'e been creating all weekend.

Im saving up so i can use 2 pocketPc side by side, one for launching clips via my trigger pads and the other for effects. More soon...

vexkon · Post by **vexkon** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:07 pm

ah-maze-sink gaffer... beta?

tbone_us · Post by **tbone_us** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:40 pm

Gafferuk I noticed your reply to another post about midi controllers.
Thanks for the link to this wonderful idea. I will be watching this
thread and the progress and I would certainly pay a small price for the software.

I'm not sure if you are controlling live via midiOX (or similar) i.e using a stand
alone app to decode the pocketPC data or not. One idea that I tried last year
was with a hardware controller I built that sent RS232 data to the PC. From
there I wrote a vst plugin that decoded the data so the midi information
would be available inside the host instead of a seperate program running
in the background. It was written in delphi from a template of Tobybear's(see kvr)

If you need any beta testing I would be glad to. I have a PocketPC,
know abit about programming in mobile 2003 (C# ports great from
PC to pocketPC - so much eaiser than palm was!!), Visual studio installed
etc and of course own live (V6 as of yesterday)

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:00 pm

tbone_us wrote:Gafferuk I noticed your reply to another post about midi controllers.
Thanks for the link to this wonderful idea. I will be watching this
thread and the progress and I would certainly pay a small price for the software.

I'm not sure if you are controlling live via midiOX (or similar) i.e using a stand
alone app to decode the pocketPC data or not. One idea that I tried last year
was with a hardware controller I built that sent RS232 data to the PC. From
there I wrote a vst plugin that decoded the data so the midi information
would be available inside the host instead of a seperate program running
in the background. It was written in delphi from a template of Tobybear's(see kvr)

If you need any beta testing I would be glad to. I have a PocketPC,
know abit about programming in mobile 2003 (C# ports great from
PC to pocketPC - so much eaiser than palm was!!), Visual studio installed
etc and of course own live (V6 as of yesterday)

Im using virtual MIDI cables to connect my receiving application to ableton.

I was thinking about going a vst route but as some music app don't have vst i decided to go with virtual MIDI cables.