is it really worth spending more for mac?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:31 pm

No warranty? I don't know how it works where you are bit I get a 12 month warranty on everything I buy from new by law. And you'd be pretty damned hard stretched to even find a new 1Ghz PC nowadays, unless we include your Sony "example" of course. And that's another thing with regard the firewire, you get to choose when you want it, likewise pretty much any other peripheral in the system. Disn't look like the guy who spent $800 cut too many corners to me but I'm sure of course you'll disagree.

claudek · Post by **claudek** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:32 pm

This is really getting stupid now..
Why do people get so cRaZy over their darn computers?

They both do a good job, they both are fast , they both are fun..
It is you who makes the music..!!

Now YOU choose!!

Oh yes, by the way if ya go with a Mac, look here for all the good audio fun:

http://www.osxaudio.com

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:33 pm

Anonymous wrote:Alex, don't make me re-post all the mac problem threads--most of which have you whining like a little girl about crappy Live preformance on your mac, or suggesting that people render by recording to minidisc like you--very high tech.

By the way, the rendering problem has been found under Windows XP as well. Just to bring you up to speed. Wouldn't it be nice if Ableton fixed its product? Aren't we on the third major rev now?

I think I just suggested MD as a workaround. I'm sure others have had to run their sound out of a mixer to hard drive or DAT or something else to get around the rendering issue. I just happen to use a MD recorder.

Oh, and good luck with your 30 minute battery life, no wireless and a four-pin unpowered Firewire port!

But then, design and paying attention to details was never a strong suit for most Wintel vendors -- or some of their end users.

-Alex

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:39 pm

God almighty, it's like listening to a fuckin record that's stuck. Put a sock in it Alex, can't you see that the only person you are convincing with all of this rehtoric is yourself? You make a good study in psychology.

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:45 pm

Anonymous wrote:God almighty, it's like listening to a fuckin record that's stuck.

How ironic, I was about to say the same thing. We could just agree to call it quits but something tells me that's not going to happen.

-Alex

freind2 · Post by **freind2** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:46 pm

i think you take it too personally alecx, it's really not that important! mac users are happy, pc users are happy, let's all be happy

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:49 pm

freind2 wrote:i think you take it too personally alecx, it's really not that important! mac users are happy, pc users are happy, let's all be happy

Hmm, yeah I guess I take it personal:

Rise up!! Rise up!! open your iBowels flagrantly at such deceit as this!! The evidence is there for all to see that such a system in fact costs 5 billion churns of soured goat cheese!!!!

Kill!! Kill!! Destroy!!! May the prophet Steve make kebabs from their organs and smother them in the sauce of justice for such distortions of THE TRUTH!!!!

Whatever...

-Alex

astromass · Post by **astromass** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:12 pm

i used pcs for years, then i bought a mac . i must say that my productivity has quadrupled and i actually feel that my powerbook is a friggin friend of mine. ableton live performance is MORE than i need, and all those ilife apps are a godsend. iphoto and itunes are so helpful and intuitive. maybe a pc could do all the same wonderful things as my mac, but i think osX just speaks to me in my own language. i don't know HOW many times i fucked up and accidentally deleted drivers and those pesky weird .soandso files that make windows tick. plus, my compaq and hp laptops were built like shit...
maybe i'm just not computer saavy or just fucking stupid, but i think that windows is garbage.
it really does boil down to use what u want to use and what u feel most comfy with, but i'm stayin with macs.
ps: hi alex!
+()Dd (instruction shuttle)

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:20 pm

astromass wrote:i used pcs for years, then i bought a mac . i must say that my productivity has quadrupled and i actually feel that my powerbook is a friggin friend of mine. ableton live performance is MORE than i need, and all those ilife apps are a godsend. iphoto and itunes are so helpful and intuitive. maybe a pc could do all the same wonderful things as my mac, but i think osX just speaks to me in my own language. i don't know HOW many times i fucked up and accidentally deleted drivers and those pesky weird .soandso files that make windows tick. plus, my compaq and hp laptops were built like shit...
maybe i'm just not computer saavy or just fucking stupid, but i think that windows is garbage.
it really does boil down to use what u want to use and what u feel most comfy with, but i'm stayin with macs.
ps: hi alex!
+()Dd (instruction shuttle)

Hey man! I think you just stepped into a war zone, by the way, hehe...

Enjoyed your recent CD, btw. Very dark, dense sound...

-Alex

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:32 pm

Oooooh look, he found a fwend!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:40 pm

Alex Reynolds wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alex, don't make me re-post all the mac problem threads--most of which have you whining like a little girl about crappy Live preformance on your mac, or suggesting that people render by recording to minidisc like you--very high tech.
By the way, the rendering problem has been found under Windows XP as well. Just to bring you up to speed. Wouldn't it be nice if Ableton fixed its product? Aren't we on the third major rev now?

I think I just suggested MD as a workaround. I'm sure others have had to run their sound out of a mixer to hard drive or DAT or something else to get around the rendering issue. I just happen to use a MD recorder.

Oh, and good luck with your 30 minute battery life, no wireless and a four-pin unpowered Firewire port! But then, design and paying attention to details was never a strong suit for most Wintel vendors -- or some of their end users.

-Alex

just to bring YOU up to speed--I've never had a single rendering problem on my xp pc, even with 30 plus tracks of real live instruments and drums and shitloads of live and waves effects. I record and render in Live everyday. So your comments mean nothing to me. As for the battery life, you make it glaringly obvious that you don't gig or use Live live much, which is obvious from the "music" you make--not to many people going to pay to go "see" that. When i gig every week, I actually need AC power to power amps, monitors, external hard drives (oh no, 4 pin firewire

), my RME multiface, keyboards, Avalon U5 for bass and guitar, Drumkat, midi foot controller, etc. so the wireless battery ipod iamajackass blah blah blah means shit to me. Maybe you should "fix" you computer, not blame Ableton for everything, as myself and many others on pcs have no problems, no matter how many times you post those threads.

Ryan

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:52 pm

This is all quite sad to see. It should really just be a bit of harmless tongue in cheek banter, but if you read back through the whole thread, and all the other pc vs mac threads on this forum, things are really vicious in places. In ten or 15 years from now ALL this beloved equipment will be in a landfill somewhere getting shat on by seagulls, that's if we're all still alive in this fucked up world! Christians vs Islamics vs Hindus vs materialists vs spiritualists vs whatever!
Mac vs PC, babies sitting in a playshool squabbling over who has the best rattle. They all make the same bloody noise! rattle rattle rattle. IT'S ALL BOLLOCKS! All of it. Nobody is going to change anybody's mind here. We're ALL musicians, we all even use the same piece of fucking software!
If people here can't settle their petty differences like gentlemen, without bickering like twats, HOW ON EARTH can we even HOPE that the rest of the planet can settle its differences?
Maybe all the doom and gloom prophesies we've heared about this period of history are correct, cos if the picture painted by this thread (microcosm) is applied to the world at large (macrocosm) then we are all DEFINATELY FUCKED.

Cya M

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:54 pm

That was me BTW got kicked off for typing too long.

nyquist · Post by **nyquist** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:54 pm

Here is a nicely loaded wintel laptop

http://www.go-l.com/laptops/hollywood_s ... index.htm

Gosh, just think, you could have 40 or more VSTs running over 120 tracks. Imagine how good your song would be!

freind2 · Post by **freind2** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:52 pm

pc's are best full stop

is it really worth spending more for mac?

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