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Post by Timur » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:03 am

*cough*

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Post by forge » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:19 am

Machinesworking wrote:
bounce wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: you don't get Neb at all. reading is a passive action, read what you want, troll block who you want, respond to who you want. neb does his best to make this place weird, he actively works to make this place what it is.
really ?....all it seems like to me is a bunch of middle aged losers flirting with each other. seriously, that's EXACTLY what it looks like. You've been flogging that 'tee hee let's pretend we're gay gag' for ...for as long as neb's been around infact.
Jesus man, with the extreme way Tone comes to Nebulas aid whether he actually needs it or not, I'm not convinced it's an act anymore??

@ Tone, serious, it's really looking like you actually have a school girl crush on Neb, not kidding with this. :?
Nothing I said was an attack, and your retorts were all emotional reaction, serious man. I don't see Neb getting upset, and that wasn't the intention of my post one bit. What I see is this odd situation where YOU get bent out of shape about something AGAIN, over react, and accuse people etc. of "not getting Neb". WTF mate? Neb is just some geek, no better or worse than anybody else IMO, but you blow up your friends into super forum jedi masters, and expect the rest of us to as well.
I'm neither upset or glad that Nebs around he's OK, and I enjoy his on topic posts. I'm not a fan of his humor, and guess what? not everybody will be. YOU, and others, like his humor, and that's fine, but I'm here to stay, and if he or you or anybody posts something I don't like, or posts off topic crap in threads about the actual product we have in common (uh.. that would be Live!) you'll hear about it. You would, and can do the same, but honestly, it gets a little old YOU and Neb, and a few other here, CLAIMING the forum as your own, and trying to drown out dissent with cries of people not "getting" yr friends etc.

Riddle me this, if reading is such a passive action, how come the smallest disagreement with you turns into hair splitting retorts to every sentence? If it's so passive why do you get so strung out at supposed attacks on your friends character? I don't, and will not troll block anybody, I don't need protection from my own reaction to other people. I find the concept amusing, it's an online forum version of self inflicted parental controls.

In the end of the day if you piss me off, I have to at some point look at my own self for why I react so heavily to what you say. I have to take into account my role in the situation, and acknowledge that I'm to a degree complicent in that feeling.

Whether you admit it or not, a lot of both negative and positive things have been flung around about Neb lately, fact! Neb is in part reacting to that, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. It's also no great mystery that he stirs it up himself a bit, humor, dogging on the poor treatment he received at NAMM at first etc. then getting treated well, people talking about him in opinionated ways pro/con etc. All of these things add up to his feeling that the forum is going mad.

I would recommend you lay off the gay jokes a bit, I think it's affecting your ability to act rationally about Neb. Besides it's in poor fucking taste. Maybe I'm touchy that way because I've known at least three gays that were good friends that died of AIDS, I dunno? It reeks of homophobia, but hey, you know what they say about homophobia. You're in the right city if you do end up swinging that way. And guess what? I wasn't joking about that, and it wasn't an attack. I approve of gay people, they rule IMO.


That will be $100, you can pay the secretary out front, and don't forget the take the pills I prescribed on schedule. Otherwise your behavior will only get worse Mkay?
maybe you're all of you missing the more crucial factor of just chill the fuck out and live/let live

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Re: why all the hostility?

Post by logic_user99 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:22 am

nebulae wrote:I'm not sure why the hostility in this forum has been amped up as of late, but it makes me a little sad. This is a community, and we built it with discussion and words. Words matter...they can make someone's day, and they can inflict pain. I'm not sure why, but in the past few weeks, the forum has become negative and mean spirited.

For the sake of our community, I'd ask that we try to tone it down a bit and try to be nice. Even if we disagree, we can do it respectfully. There's no need to call people names. I'm sure we can get the discussions back to being about audio and other funny OT posts.

And for those of you that are going to hate on this request, well, there's not much I can do about that. It's your personal choice to say what you want to say. I can only make the request that we try to get back to the fun and stay away from the hostility.
Put your cardigan away, Mr Emo!

*chuckle*

I do know what you mean, though. It's a shame when a bunch of know-it-all ignoramus' have to poop into everyone's coffee.
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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:32 am

MW - nice post. may I first say that I haven't eaten in 4 days but drank 3 Sobe energy drinks (it's juice, must be good for a cold!) before I posted. dumb rant, who am I to retort your opinion? fuck, I'm still shaking, I hate this feeling.

yes Neb can be a 400lb gorilla, I appreciate the positivity. his obnoxiousness comes with the territory. it gets under some peoples' skins, wow, not everyone is like me?!? mine isn't the only opinion? I guess I just see him as anything but malicious, which is about the best one can hope for in this shithole forum. yeah, I dig I come off as a fanboy but I also call him out, big deal.

the gay humor - that got out of hand for a bit like a year ago, anymore I make jokes like that as shock, fine line. me putting my dick in shocking mental images is not always gay humor. I don't intend them as gay humor per say, but shock, fine line, check me. I changed it up but the mods have spoken, it's played out. I'll change it up, or whatever. trust me, I got pissed at Neb over this topic, I dig the respect.

my hair splitting retorts - bad writing, critical editing, re-editing, posting, losing sight of words and reality. sitting at work just looking at words tweaked out on ginseng.

I'd hate to 'claim the forum as my own', I'm not interesting or talented, I want to learn. point taken. but if it's boring on here and I'm bored I'm not going to wait for someone to shake shit up, dig?

signal - whatever, if it was up to you nobody would ever post. if you don't like the news go out and make some of your own. I don't even know what to make of you, you're literally nobody, little contributions, all hate. what an asshole.

lm - your last post confuses me. whatever I may have posted that was beyond obvious fact should stand as that. if there's something I need to apologize for, no problem. in my history in this asylum I've been WAAAAY obnoxious at times. how long of a memory do your feelings have? or are you standing up for b0unce? fuck I've ignored him for months and you're worried for his feelings? I don't get it. don't explain it because it's not your battle to fight and you're out of pills, tough guy.

b0unce - seriously, I thought blocking you would put enough space between us that you could enjoy yourself, so could I. let's forget the past. I dig how I can be annoying, ignore me. you don't have to like me, I'd rather you ignore me. who am I to get under your skin? forget it. whatever, every time I acknowledge you, you go off the deep end. don't you like it that I ignore you? would anything make you happy?

this is all so lame, too many words for shit that could be resolved over a beer. enough with the goddamn FEEEEEELLLLLIIIINNNNNNNGSSSSSS!!! :cry:

oh yeah, FUCK. YOU. ALL. :P
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At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
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Post by SonnyBonnier » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:55 am

laird wrote:if there's one thing that I've learned on the internet, its that most electronic musicians are street-savvy biker punk body-builders with a fuck-all attitude and in-your-face personality with black belts and mad ninja skillz so watch out.
LOL

I remember a thread a couple of years ago at reasonstation, where three internet-hardcases were threatening each other and telling one another exactly how street-wise, tough and skilled in different types of martial arts they were. No one ever gave out a physical adress though...

Anyway, the guy who started the thread is right.

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Post by b0unce » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:10 am

Tone Deft wrote: lm - your last post confuses me. whatever I may have posted that was beyond obvious fact should stand as that. if there's something I need to apologize for, no problem. in my history in this asylum I've been WAAAAY obnoxious at times. how long of a memory do your feelings have? or are you standing up for b0unce? fuck I've ignored him for months and you're worried for his feelings? I don't get it. don't explain it because it's not your battle to fight and you're out of pills, tough guy.

b0unce - seriously, I thought blocking you would put enough space between us that you could enjoy yourself, so could I. let's forget the past. I dig how I can be annoying, ignore me. you don't have to like me, I'd rather you ignore me. who am I to get under your skin? forget it. whatever, every time I acknowledge you, you go off the deep end. don't you like it that I ignore you? would anything make you happy?
Hi tone!
first of all, there seems to be a trend I've noticed with you. Basically, there's a handful of your peers here that don't find me as offensive/agro as you do. Anytime they express their indifference to my conduct you insinuate they are some kind of fanclub or something. (OBVIOUSLY I can handle my own). Some of them would probably rather not express their indifference because of these kind of accusations. That's pretty weak imo. But you resort to it in some way everytime it someone steps up, and they've only expressed their indifference a handful of times. But they can speak for themselves on this non-topic if they wish anyways, that's just how I see it. Plus I don't need to kiss their ass on a daily basis for them to be indifferent. They just don't find me offensive like you do, simple as that. I'm just one person who is routinely villafied by many people for speaking my mind, no problem I don't mind....but God forbid two of your peers don't see me the way you do. I'd hand it to you if they're actions were routine, but they ain't. out of 100 arguments I've been on my own-ee-o about 77 times. true or false ?

it's almost impossible to have an argument with one of you guys on your own. just something I've noticed.

and you don't get under my skin...I'm just expressing my opinions & observations in yet another moral-mob thread. And kudos for taking some of the comments as moderation...err, MW's comments I guess.

back to regular programming,
until the next thread like this.

when's the next sermon Neb ?

STFU SonnyBonnier
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Post by b0unce » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:27 am

oh ya,
and what fuckin hostility was neb referring to anyways ?
We're not in bible camp, swearing is not hostility. If words make you cry maybe you should expose yourself somewhere a little less public, like a private chatroom
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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:56 am

b0unce-
man, I have no answers. you have to admit that you do not have a small personality, it can be tough being in the line of fire in a multi page rant fest (not that I haven't egged it on at times). it got to the point with myself (and I assume others) that I decided to just troll block and walk away, best for me, best for you, best for the forum. you absolutely do stand on your own often but I don't think you mind taking on a crowd in a bar brawl, Begbie (trainspotting) style. it's all this bullshit that builds up over thousands of posts and becomes this fucking draaaaamaaaaaa. earlier in the thread I think it was stated that we all want to have fun and have some sort of acceptance, or somesuch shit. time to hit the reset button and we can ALL chill the fuck out

70+ hits on this thread since I replied, whores do love their drama.
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Post by knotkranky » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:09 am

Wow, going strong still.

Ya know, all this shit isn't about anybody. Not Neb or anyone else here. Most of this shit is just some dudes looking to toss some shit around. In a couple days it'll be some other shit. Neb, you campaign for stuff and you're popular here, this shit is how popularity works, it's as old as time. Neb wrote a post, it wasn't pron or offensive at all, but it's like moths to a flame when anybody with a self starting attitude comes forward with some stuff about getting along. That's all the dude wants and the dude ain't wrong, Tone ain't wrong and b0unce ain't wrong either. i'm no fence sitting pussy but I am for peace and getting along. But i'm also for not giving a fuck either, in a medium that can't honestly be taken 100% serious. This is just self imposed wwf for a bunch of dudes who have interest in semi-intelligent banter. I consider this a great thread btw. Everybody was cool. Honesty and feelings are way over-rated anyway.

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Post by Pitch Black » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:23 am

I love you

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Post by Cloak and Dagger » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:28 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
a thread about asking everybody to chill out , get along and be nice
starts an argument all its own...Classic


if Jesus(or any divine being)came down to the planet and asked everyone on earth to be peaceful..and get along..everyone would start killing each other over who's fault it was the world was fucked up and what the right way is to fix it....

I guess that happens already anyways...
put your music where your mouth is......

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Post by hangar17 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:10 am

like sands through the hourglass these are the days of our lives
I fell down the musical stairs at the science museum.
It went like : C F# B D Ab A#5 E D B A THUD!

we are airfields
this is hangar 17

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Post by thefool » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:20 pm

dcease wrote:
thefool wrote:damn already back man! Here i was sitting with expectations when arriving at this "North Korea" i bought tickets too and all i see is huge posters of some man with big glasses 8O
he's my hero. i idolize him. so powerful...
I made a drawing of him in art class. He reminds me a bit of Tone Deft you know,

*spit spit * feirler in ze thred i THINK IT WAS ZCHTATED THAT FE ALL FANT TO AVE PHUN *sloooooph*. //wipes glasses//

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Post by Timur » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:56 pm

*cough*

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Post by thefool » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:10 pm

hehe :evil:

8O

i'll relax a little now..

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