Do you equate Hip Hop listenership with shady activity?

[Machinesworking]

I think I put more effort into this thread than I really intended but think it's all good food for thought. I have a lot of passing thoughts that sound extreme in the explanation but I'm really not all that passionate about it.

I'm sure large gatherings of people blasting Hip Hop and acting the part will continue to raise my eyebrow, but as I insinuated in the first post, maybe I've just reached that age where I'm out of touch with what's hip and acceptable….just like all previous generations. But I still think there's a huge downward slide between Elvis's hip gyrations and shooting people full of holes while banging a bitch who don't mean shit.

If you don't have the same neighbors I do I recommend DJing a 16-year-old girls birthday party using her playlist, a true eye opener and a feeling that the FBI might break down the door at any minute and arrest your ass. Scarier yet if her wine drinking parents hit the dance floor with them giving you the thumbs up and singing along with "lick my pussy, lick my crack….."

You're just sinking yourself further and further. Honestly.

[starving student]

You want me to admit my neighbor being black enters into it? OK done.

The fact is races have tension with each other when they act like the negative stereotypes of their race. I have just as much issue with any other race acting out the negative stereotypes of BLACK Hip Hop culture. You're the one honing in on just one element of what I'm talking about. Now that I've admitted it on this one scenario I hope you feel vindicated for whatever reason.

My BLACK coworker and I have similar discussions and he's just as irritated at commercial Hip Hop culture as I am. I suppose to you think that makes him some kind of racist against his own race and think he finds it perfectly acceptable when non-black races act the same way.

I don't need to watch the news for this shit. Have you ever listened to Hip Hop lyrics or watched a Hip Hop video?

i like you beats nuff said.

the issue i have with some of these statements is that they are incorrect.
you have to define whether you are talking about 'commercial Hip Hop culture' of which I didn't know existed, and 'negative stereotypes of Black Hip Hop Culture', of which I didn't know exist either. I do however know of hiphop culture but my limited information on the subject is that the very culture itself came into existence to oppose negativity and fight ingnorance and the few hiphop groups that I know of also support this stance in their hiphop music.

if you are saying that hiphop culture is the same as commercial Hip Hop culture I would argue that it is not but it's hard to say where you're coming from because you include both in your post up above, further more............

I believe:
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that commercialism in america was not started by black people.

that gangster-ism/thug-ism in entertainment or outside of entertainment in america was not started by black people.

and that black people in america have neither profited the most from or propagated/distributed through their business models the majority of criminal music entertainment iow, even though there are black record execs and label heads that the majority of this negative type of music was put out by non-black record execs and non-black label heads/ -non-black radio execs and heads and it's also a noted fact that non-black listeners have made this type of music the mainstay and billion dollar industry that it is today in other words mostly non-black people have spent their hard earned money in support of this type of music.

to be honest I don't even know where this info fits into your discussion but i will say that more people who listened to mozart owned slaves than people who listen to whatever your neighbors were playing so at least you don't have to worry about being enslaved






c'mon people enough of this fearmongering foolishness

[ThrowAway]

every one makes assumptions based on a persons apperance and behavior, if you wont admit you do then your either a hippocrite or a fool. nothing beats said makes me think he is racist. he didnt say he associates black people with shady behavior.

[starving student]

every one makes assumptions based on a persons apperance and behavior, if you wont admit you do then your either a hippocrite or a fool. nothing beats said makes me think he is racist. he didnt say he associates black people with shady behavior.

it looks like you are trying to say two different things with that post, that everyone makes assumptions and that beats is not making assumptions........thats what it looks like, I think both things you are saying are not true, the world just might be larger than the assumptions that you're trying to make about everybody in it, and beats has admitted that he's making assumptions, his honesty is one of his endearing characteristics.

[beats me]

I think I put more effort into this thread than I really intended but think it's all good food for thought. I have a lot of passing thoughts that sound extreme in the explanation but I'm really not all that passionate about it.

I'm sure large gatherings of people blasting Hip Hop and acting the part will continue to raise my eyebrow, but as I insinuated in the first post, maybe I've just reached that age where I'm out of touch with what's hip and acceptable….just like all previous generations. But I still think there's a huge downward slide between Elvis's hip gyrations and shooting people full of holes while banging a bitch who don't mean shit.

If you don't have the same neighbors I do I recommend DJing a 16-year-old girls birthday party using her playlist, a true eye opener and a feeling that the FBI might break down the door at any minute and arrest your ass. Scarier yet if her wine drinking parents hit the dance floor with them giving you the thumbs up and singing along with "lick my pussy, lick my crack….."

You're just sinking yourself further and further. Honestly.

My collection of conversation shovels is unparalleled.

[Tone Deft]

MW - you spend way too much time being judgmental of other people.

[starving student]

I think I put more effort into this thread than I really intended but think it's all good food for thought. I have a lot of passing thoughts that sound extreme in the explanation but I'm really not all that passionate about it.

I'm sure large gatherings of people blasting Hip Hop and acting the part will continue to raise my eyebrow, but as I insinuated in the first post, maybe I've just reached that age where I'm out of touch with what's hip and acceptable….just like all previous generations. But I still think there's a huge downward slide between Elvis's hip gyrations and shooting people full of holes while banging a bitch who don't mean shit.

If you don't have the same neighbors I do I recommend DJing a 16-year-old girls birthday party using her playlist, a true eye opener and a feeling that the FBI might break down the door at any minute and arrest your ass. Scarier yet if her wine drinking parents hit the dance floor with them giving you the thumbs up and singing along with "lick my pussy, lick my crack….."

You're just sinking yourself further and further. Honestly.

My collection of conversation shovels is unparalleled.

you're alright with me beats, hey have you heard that song 'can i smell your d--k'
that song had me gafawing all over the place haha the industry has truly crapped out.

[stringtapper]

you're alright with me beats, hey have you heard that song 'can i smell your d--k'
that song had me gafawing all over the place haha the industry has truly crapped out.

So is the song title supposed to be a request or an inquiry?

[starving student]

request

[ThrowAway]

Starving student: he is making assumptions but I'm saying he didn't come off as racist. Every one has first impressions of some kind no matter what walk of life. I make a judgement on every one individually if given the chance. But if I see someone with there pants below their butt-cheeks rolling up in a caddy bumping rick ross etc etc I get the impression they are uneducated and ignorant. This doesn't make me a racist if the person happens to be black. If for what ever reason I start talking to this person and they are cool I don't hold it against them. I don't think beatsme would either, I'm not going to make that assumption like a few others did. I also think if the guy with his pants around his ankles gets a dirty look from a white guy he will assume the white guy is racist wheter or not the former peron in question is black or not.

[beats me]

Thanks to everybody that has supported my journey in this thread through ignorance, paranoia, judgment, assumptions, prejudice, misstatements, back peddling, and denial.

To the rest of you: rat-a-tat-tat.

[starving student]

the way i see it is that we are all all have on this planet and nothing is more important to me than that,
if it helps the next time you see someone jumping off their own balcony imprint a mental image of a skateboard under their feet it will make you feel better and go on with your day. never said beats was racist.

[Machinesworking]

MW - you spend way too much time being judgmental of other people.

You spend too much time holding grudges.
Beats me IMO is being overtly judgmental here. He asked people's opinions, I gave him one.
End of story.

[edit] at least he always has a great comeback though. [/edit]

[ThrowAway]

the way i see it is that we are all all have on this planet and nothing is more important to me than that,
if it helps the next time you see someone jumping off their own balcony imprint a mental image of a skateboard under their feet it will make you feel better and go on with your day. never said beats was racist.

I know.

[dredd i knight]

Thanks to everybody that has supported my journey in this thread through ignorance, paranoia, judgment, assumptions, prejudice, misstatements, back peddling, and denial.

To the rest of you: rat-a-tat-tat.

I thought many (including myself) were bending over backwards...
do you ever recgnise an olive branch when one is being proferred?