Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:52 pm
The British Punk Scene was influenced by The Ramones (some would argue they are more New Wave than Punk) or The Stooges or other New Wave acts much less than it is credited.
The Ramones sold about six copies each of their first album in the UK. The Sex Pistols and The Clash were already formed and performing before The Ramones made any kind of impact on the UK music scene when they did some tours in late 1976, the Sex Pistols had already had records out in their inimitable style by then.
Although Lemmy of Motorhead and The Damned both claim The Ramones as a huge influence, neither of whom are really punk bands (The Damned initially were punk-ish but turned more goth). Blondie were more of an influence on British Punks than the Ramones, Blondie were frickin' huge with many top 10 singles and multi-platinum albums.
I love The Ramones anyway, but just saying, the first hit record I can remember the Ramones having was 'Sheena Is A Punk Rocker' and it says it all that the Ramones best selling hit in Britain was their cover of Motown song 'Baby I Love You' off 'The End Of The Century' one of their worst albums. (which also was their best selling one in the UK).
The Ramones sold about six copies each of their first album in the UK. The Sex Pistols and The Clash were already formed and performing before The Ramones made any kind of impact on the UK music scene when they did some tours in late 1976, the Sex Pistols had already had records out in their inimitable style by then.
Although Lemmy of Motorhead and The Damned both claim The Ramones as a huge influence, neither of whom are really punk bands (The Damned initially were punk-ish but turned more goth). Blondie were more of an influence on British Punks than the Ramones, Blondie were frickin' huge with many top 10 singles and multi-platinum albums.
I love The Ramones anyway, but just saying, the first hit record I can remember the Ramones having was 'Sheena Is A Punk Rocker' and it says it all that the Ramones best selling hit in Britain was their cover of Motown song 'Baby I Love You' off 'The End Of The Century' one of their worst albums. (which also was their best selling one in the UK).
Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:03 pm
leedsquietman wrote:The British Punk Scene was influenced by The Ramones or The Stooges or other New Wave acts much less than it is credited.
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:04 pm
It's from the movie SLC Punk..LoopStationZebra wrote:outershpongolia wrote: Thats like that shit where american kids were saying "anarchy in the UK" tryin to be all hard.. SLC Punk
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:06 pm
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:06 pm
outershpongolia wrote:It's from the movie SLC Punk..LoopStationZebra wrote:outershpongolia wrote: Thats like that shit where american kids were saying "anarchy in the UK" tryin to be all hard.. SLC Punk
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:38 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:57 pm
Yup, so true.LoopStationZebra wrote:
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:05 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:30 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:55 pm
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:51 am
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:10 am
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Re: The main difference between europe and the usa.
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:16 am
Wow? You really need a history lesson on punk, badly.
Seriously I hope you've been drinking or are trolling, there is so much wrong with your post, so much.
For the record:
Ramones = punk, not even arguably the first official "punk" band.
The Sex Pistols were at Ramones gigs on their first UK tour before they even formed!
The Clash admit that the Ramones inspired them to become a band in the first place, the Sex Pistols ended up pissing off the Ramones by getting into gross out fests with the
press, (vomit, piss, spitting rumors etc.), so they never really talked about each others bands after that. The Ramones had hope that Punk would take off like the British invasion, and the Clash, Sex Pistols and them could be like the Beatles, Stones, and the Who. They were disappointed that the Sex Pistols made it into a circus freak show. Iggy Pop and the Stooges and the New Yourk Dolls are both obvious influences on the Ramones. There is NOTHING new wave about the Ramones at all, period.
New Wave was a term invented to separate the milder, more pop music oriented part of punk from bands like the Sex Pistols and other rougher elements.
Blondie always thought of themselves as part of the Punk movement, but the press sold them as New Wave.
Though early dress style of the Dammed influenced goth, their music at that time was punk, period.
Goth took more from later Banshees records, Joy Division and Bauhaus than the Dammed, not much to argue there. Later Dammed records sound goth, but early stuff is fast and fully guitar driven = punk.
I was, and am still a big fan of punk and post punk, I've read a ton of books on it, and almost everything you wrote was total bullshit.
So hope you were trolling, or just drunk.
Seriously I hope you've been drinking or are trolling, there is so much wrong with your post, so much.
For the record:
Ramones = punk, not even arguably the first official "punk" band.
The Sex Pistols were at Ramones gigs on their first UK tour before they even formed!
The Clash admit that the Ramones inspired them to become a band in the first place, the Sex Pistols ended up pissing off the Ramones by getting into gross out fests with the
press, (vomit, piss, spitting rumors etc.), so they never really talked about each others bands after that. The Ramones had hope that Punk would take off like the British invasion, and the Clash, Sex Pistols and them could be like the Beatles, Stones, and the Who. They were disappointed that the Sex Pistols made it into a circus freak show. Iggy Pop and the Stooges and the New Yourk Dolls are both obvious influences on the Ramones. There is NOTHING new wave about the Ramones at all, period.
New Wave was a term invented to separate the milder, more pop music oriented part of punk from bands like the Sex Pistols and other rougher elements.
Blondie always thought of themselves as part of the Punk movement, but the press sold them as New Wave.
Though early dress style of the Dammed influenced goth, their music at that time was punk, period.
Goth took more from later Banshees records, Joy Division and Bauhaus than the Dammed, not much to argue there. Later Dammed records sound goth, but early stuff is fast and fully guitar driven = punk.
I was, and am still a big fan of punk and post punk, I've read a ton of books on it, and almost everything you wrote was total bullshit.
So hope you were trolling, or just drunk.
leedsquietman wrote:The British Punk Scene was influenced by The Ramones (some would argue they are more New Wave than Punk) or The Stooges or other New Wave acts much less than it is credited.
The Ramones sold about six copies each of their first album in the UK. The Sex Pistols and The Clash were already formed and performing before The Ramones made any kind of impact on the UK music scene when they did some tours in late 1976, the Sex Pistols had already had records out in their inimitable style by then.
Although Lemmy of Motorhead and The Damned both claim The Ramones as a huge influence, neither of whom are really punk bands (The Damned initially were punk-ish but turned more goth). Blondie were more of an influence on British Punks than the Ramones, Blondie were frickin' huge with many top 10 singles and multi-platinum albums.
I love The Ramones anyway, but just saying, the first hit record I can remember the Ramones having was 'Sheena Is A Punk Rocker' and it says it all that the Ramones best selling hit in Britain was their cover of Motown song 'Baby I Love You' off 'The End Of The Century' one of their worst albums. (which also was their best selling one in the UK).