Yet another thread hijacked and ruined, par for the course

[stringtapper]

I read the exchange differently. The maxpatch was full of code because it was the most efficient way to share it with other people. A lot of people share patches like that. Some one said it worked. Were they lieing? Your advocacy of the autohotkeys software does come across as a promotional stance. I was surprised to learn you weren't getting anything from it. Then again, I have really enthused over korg stuff a number of times. Maybe they should be paying me.

Shelluser called his device "The most useless M4l device ever created in history!" in the post where he said he had made it, and you are complaining that I didn't take it seriously enough. I've explained many reasons why I didn't. Nobody said it worked. Show me the post where you think they said that it worked. It is claimed to have run all the commands, so fast that Live couldn't keep up, IN ONE GO. In other words, instead of doing 17 keyboard commands to achieve 17 separate tasks, it squashed them all into one. It's like driving past the supermarket and claiming you went shopping. It is useless in the current form it is alleged to exist in. It needs about 10 separate keyboard shortcuts minimum, not one. Does it even have one?

I am the one who said it worked because I am a Max user and I do know how to copy compressed Max code into a patch to make a device. I did this with ShelLuser's code and it worked. It would need to be slowed down for you to capture it in a video for your silly race, but the fact is that the code that made it happen is there and readable (if you know Max). It would also be pretty simple to actually slow the device down by adding a little code to sequence the events, but what's the point? He already demonstrated that M4L could provide a solution that will win your race by a long shot. The fact that you don't have the expertise to check his work is not anyone else's fault.

[Machinesworking]

You must really hate cats

[Machinesworking]

His time zone is one hour ahead of mine.

Yes this is extremely relevant.

Hey I think I forgot to delete some incriminating posts that link you to using your friend as a weapon in a worthless debate, might want to check on that.

[stringtapper]

Because nobody has demonstrated it, nobody uses it, it is not a working functional tool. It could be, possibly, one day, but it certainly isn't yet.

And you certainly don't have the skills to test/modify it.

[stringtapper]

If you need help getting that patch to work let me know.

[Matt_Quinn]

What use is that? Even if you knew how to put it in Max it wouldn't actually do anything useful in any practical sense.

This is also true of your 'speed test' - a bunch of arbitrary actions that do nothing in any practical sense. Yes, they are actions that people use in Live, but the speed at which that particular list of actions can be performed has basically no inherent meaning or value.

Not true at all. I use it hundreds of times a day, not just in Live. They are not arbitrary, they are the most commonly performed actions in Live. The speed demonstrates actions I use every day in Live, done at the sort of speed I actually do them. Obviously I don't often run all those 17 back to back, but I often come close to that. I certainly run a few back to back like that every now and then. I am showing you HOW I ACTUALLY USE LIVE EVERY DAY. And that involves actions which could easily happen at the rate of 2 events per second.

OK, my initial point was totally missed, but not that big a deal.


In regard to the bold, will you answer the part of my post you lopped off? If you use Live in this massively efficient way, you must be cranking out loads of music. Can we hear some of it? Your last track on Soundcloud is very old.

[Machinesworking]

The point of the race, which you call "silly", was obvious too, but it went over the heads of a lot of people including you and Shelluser and many others, who were too focussed on causing aggro to actually see the point of the thread. The point was to introduce to people the idea of task automation coupled with custom shortcuts. I also hoped to find an alternative for PC users.

It didn't "go over peoples heads", they thought it was silly. You posted a mac only solution in a sales pitched way and someone had a sight go at you, with a patch that very obviously could be modified to do the actions you require, but your ego got in the way. You have no idea what Max can do, yet you claim the patch is worthless, you're too busy being butt hurt to get that every time you bring it up you look worse and worse.

[Machinesworking]

His time zone is one hour ahead of mine.

Yes this is extremely relevant.

Hey I think I forgot to delete some incriminating posts that link you to using your friend as a weapon in a worthless debate, might want to check on that.

Your behaviour in this matter is appalling, utterly despicable. I mentioned an anonymous unidentifiable person who you had been gossiping about. You (deliberately, obviously) made them identifiable. You, not me. Stop going round lying. It's so pathetic. Pitiful actually.

Uh, you can't call me a lier, you deleted every post in that thread you made, you simply do not get to rewrite history Mr. Stalin.

You mentioned details of a PM in an attempt to use it as ammunition in a public argument, which is beyond despicable.
The best part is you figured you could slander me and still keep the conversation from going public???
You're a bad friend to this person and I hope they figure it out.

[login]

Funken, you are just over reacting and doing that you become a funny target for trolls and you keep feeding them.

[Tone Deft]

I wish I was as clever as you are.

trust me, we ALL wish you were, that would great right about now.

funken, stop it man, this is getting out of control.

[stringtapper]

Oh how hilarious, someone who has only just got Live doesn't know how to create a set of patches that should have been created years ago.

What does this sentence even mean? Are you saying you have only just now gotten Live? How the hell have you been doing tutorials for it all this time then? Using cracks?

I wish I was as clever as you are.

trust me, we ALL wish you were, that would great right about now.

[stringtapper]

If you need help getting that patch to work let me know.

Game on. Feel free to borrow any of the methods I invented, such as opening and closing different views in Session and Arrange simultaneously.

Let me know when it's up and running, tried and tested over several months in Live 9, and there is a straightforward tutorial people can understand. Ideally it needs to be done so people can make their own, for literally anything in Live. The one thing I've not cracked by the way is things that move about and have no menu listing, such as selecting a loop brace.

I think you've got a comprehension problem here. I didn't say I was going to work on this patch myself. I have no interest in it and I'm too busy coding patches that do DSP.

I merely offered some help in case you want to get it running yourself. So the rest of what you just wrote is completely nonsensical as an answer to what I wrote.

[Tone Deft]

I will not let you start a massive derail.

only funken can do massive derails.

[andydes]

I will not let you start a massive derail.

Derailed from what? Arguing about the last time a thread was derailed?

If you really want to keep things on topic, you have to stop referring back to previous arguments. You must know what will happen when you do this.

[oddstep]

I wish I was as clever as you are.

trust me, we ALL wish you were, that would great right about now.

funken, stop it man, this is getting out of control.

Agreed.