Musicians no longer socially relevant?

[rote fahne]

what you mean with workers goverment, you mean we put joe the plumber there, and dave the housepainter?

and then what?

sounds like a populist idea.

Not populist, no. Socialist. A workers' government would probably be a coalition of workers' parties. But I'm talking about a socialist revolution, not just different politicians. For instance they would have to nationalise all the banks very quickly.

they already did in the netherlands, the nationalized the banks that were in trouble. but governments are bad bankers, as soon as possible banks will be private again, with new guidelines of course.

the real issue is ethics.

[rote fahne]

Not populist, no. Socialist. A workers' government would probably be a coalition of workers' parties. But I'm talking about a socialist revolution, not just different politicians. For instance they would have to nationalise all the banks very quickly.

sounds like a bad idea. government controlled is something else than run by the government.

[scott nathaniel]

Are you just learning division and multiplication or something? You are obviously a bit 'special'. Do you have someone to take care of you? Where's your mommy? She'll be back soon I'm sure.

but there is no debate on here. Name-calling is the only thing offered. It's pathetic. People should be ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed of this forum.

Hypocrite or Douche?

Isn't it bed-time yet? Tellytubbies ended ages ago.

I thought it was a valid and on-topic question. You claim a demise in the lounge and yet do not account for your contribution, whether it be good or bad.
You also claim that musicians are now socially irrelevant whilst you contribute to that irrelevance by offering lame-ass tutorials that only amplify the ignorance of your solicited audience. Seriously, you are giving mac tutorials on key-binds? If someone has purchased a $2000 computer, give or take a few g's, and they can't fart a shell script, then they shouldn't be anywhere near a machine such as a mac.
I have turned off the teletubbies to await your response,which I'm certain will involve some form of retribution and an evasive off-topic rant.

[myrnova]

I thought it was a valid and on-topic question. You claim a demise in the lounge and yet do not account for your contribution, whether it be good or bad.
You also claim that musicians are now socially irrelevant whilst you contribute to that irrelevance by offering lame-ass tutorials that only amplify the ignorance of your solicited audience. Seriously, you are giving mac tutorials on key-binds? If someone has purchased a $2000 computer, give or take a few g's, and they can't fart a shell script, then they shouldn't be anywhere near a machine such as a mac.
I have turned off the teletubbies to await your response,which I'm certain will involve some form of retribution and an evasive off-topic rant.

..."Tellytubbies"

[rote fahne]

they already did in the netherlands, the nationalized the banks that were in trouble. but governments are bad bankers, as soon as possible banks will be private again, with new guidelines of course.

the real issue is ethics.

That's just bailouts. It's not socialism, not an attempt at socialism, at regime change. They will be privatised after they have been made profitable again. By governments!

regime change? who you are going to replace by whom?

tell me.

and what will it solve.

[rote fahne]

But why would Trotsky say 'mission accomplished'? Spell it out. Spit it out.

I would say for him.

One last chance. What mission would Trotsky think had been accomplished? I have no idea what you are talking about.

rechtvaardige inkomensverdeling, goede arbeidsvoorwaarden, om er een paar te noemen.

[rote fahne]

But why would Trotsky say 'mission accomplished'? Spell it out. Spit it out.

I would say for him.

One last chance. What mission would Trotsky think had been accomplished? I have no idea what you are talking about.

one last chance: you get cocky?

[rote fahne]

proletarian people that dont work being able to spent their evenings chatting on the internet. lev would be proud of it.

[rote fahne]

Not populist, no. Socialist. A workers' government would probably be a coalition of workers' parties. But I'm talking about a socialist revolution, not just different politicians. For instance they would have to nationalise all the banks very quickly.

sounds like a bad idea. government controlled is something else than run by the government.

Socialism is not about some bureaucracy running everything, yes that would be a bad idea. But in the short term you have to replace the capitalist government with a workers' one, unless you are an anarchist. You have to have something. Anarchism is just a pipe dream.

and what is the workers one going to do?

[myrnova]

Funken, just for the record: the guy here is trolling.

You had better watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o

... and it is "on topic", too

[rote fahne]

Funken, just for the record: the guy here is trolling.

You had better watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o

... and it is "on topic", too

i ask him what the workers government is going to do, on topic, very legitimate question.

of course he wont have an answer on that, an answer that makes sense, still i will try.

and of cours you are jealous again in order to disturb my conversation with flunky. you remind me the dog my grandmother had: whenever she was on the phone her dog started to bark, because the dog couldnt stand he didnt get any attention.

[rote fahne]

where is flunky btw, is he having a shit?

[regretfullySaid]

N/m

[myrnova]

Funken, just for the record: the guy here is trolling.

You had better watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o

... and it is "on topic", too

i ask him what the workers government is going to do, on topic, very legitimate question.

of course he wont have an answer on that, an answer that makes sense, still i will try.

and of cours you are jealous again in order to disturb my conversation with flunky. you remind me the dog my grandmother had: whenever she was on the phone her dog started to bark, because the dog couldnt stand he didnt get any attention.

THIS is typical trolling, and you know it well. Infact you are:

(1) OUT OF TOPIC
(2) derailing the thread with your "questions"

This is typical of the trolls: they start messing up the threads with out of topic attacks. Once the "victim" answers or replies, they accuse him to be: (1) a troll; (2) out of topic; (3) offensive; (4) a nut ("obsessive", "douche" etc.)

See here:

GOLD MEDAL: Stringtapper
SILVER MEDAL: H20nly
BRONZE MEDAL: rote fahne
TELETUBBIE MEDAL: scott nathaniel

[scott nathaniel]

Funken, just for the record: the guy here is trolling.

You had better watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o

... and it is "on topic", too

i ask him what the workers government is going to do, on topic, very legitimate question.

of course he wont have an answer on that, an answer that makes sense, still i will try.

and of cours you are jealous again in order to disturb my conversation with flunky. you remind me the dog my grandmother had: whenever she was on the phone her dog started to bark, because the dog couldnt stand he didnt get any attention.

THIS is typical trolling, and you know it well. Infact you are:

(1) OUT OF TOPIC
(2) derailing the thread with your "questions"

This is typical of the trolls: they start messing up the threads with out of topic attacks. Once the "victim" answers or replies, they accuse him to be: (1) a troll; (2) out of topic; (3) offensive; (4) a nut ("obsessive", "douche" etc.)

See here:

GOLD MEDAL: Stringtapper
SILVER MEDAL: H20nly
BRONZE MEDAL: rote fahne
TELETUBBIE MEDAL: scott nathaniel

You are an out of topic troll busting a nut with offensive douchery.