How come most laptop performing musicians use macs??

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:28 pm

ya know,....

i didnt know windows had been around for 20 years.

davefilms · Post by **davefilms** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:29 am

It started out as DOS... I used ver 1 in 1987. Win95 was a product of a techknowlegy agreement between Apple and Microsoft. OS/2 was made by Microsoft and later became WinNT PC Dos was MS Dos

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:43 am

davefilms wrote:Win95 was a product of a techknowlegy agreement between Apple and Microsoft.

More like the product of an out and out theft, with a long court battle settled when Bill gates bought 100 million in Apple stock that he cannot sell.

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:36 am

Machinesworking wrote:
davefilms wrote:Win95 was a product of a techknowlegy agreement between Apple and Microsoft.
More like the product of an out and out theft, with a long court battle settled when Bill gates bought 100 million in Apple stock that he cannot sell.

and then brought back steve jobs, the guy he double crossed. haha

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:55 am

Ford stole the wheel from cavemen!!!!!!

geez ppl.... Just because patent lawyers like to have jobs doesn't mean
that using the current paradigm and the way people want to work means u'r
a theif.

-Ben

leonard · Post by **leonard** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:05 am

techknowlegy

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:12 am

interesting conversation, i think i am a little young to know all this, i joined windows in 1997, in school, i had my first pc in 1999, win98SE.

I first used a mac in 2000, now that seems fairly recent in comparison to you guys.

forgie · Post by **forgie** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:43 am

I learnt to read and write by using a mac starting at the age of 3. That was in 1989, and Microsofts crowning glory was.... ahem... DOS. A command line. That's the best that they could do. I was using a GUI and playing games, making pictures and doing home networking, at the same time as everyone else had a command line.

The gap between Macs and IBM-Compatible PCs has closed in a hell of a lot since 1989, but there's still a serious gap if you make use of the technologies that Apple has built in to OSX. (Appletalk, Applescript, Apple this, Apple that). There's just heaps of shit that you can do way easier then anywhere else if you are a computer nerd/geek/tech. Oh and they come with Apache, PHP, Perl, Python and heaps of other open-source shit pre-installed, just 'hidden' away from normal noob users. This is without touching on iLife and the free Apple apps. Windows comes with jack shit.

If you like new technology and what it can do, by all means support Apple. If you want the best bang for buck and are ok with stealing software (most people are) then get a PC laptop. As someone who appreciates new technology, good software, customisation and ease of use, I will be using Macs for a long time.

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:08 am

That has got to be the first post I've ever seen by a mac person who
actually knew something rather then just regurgitating stuff off articles by
fanatics.

Yeah I was on Atari back then.... PCs were a joke really, everyone
said "compatibility" but until 95 there was seriously no reason to ever look
at PC unless u were in an office.

Now it's a bit different tho.... Maybe tomorrow things will change again....

edit: that being said, everyone could benefit from spending some time in a
non-GUI OS.... Amstrad was cool, u had to basically know how to code just
to run programs

-Ben

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:53 pm

MrYellow wrote:That has got to be the first post I've ever seen by a mac person who
actually knew something rather then just regurgitating stuff off articles by
fanatics.

Yeah I was on Atari back then.... PCs were a joke really, everyone
said "compatibility" but until 95 there was seriously no reason to ever look
at PC unless u were in an office.

Now it's a bit different tho.... Maybe tomorrow things will change again....

edit: that being said, everyone could benefit from spending some time in a
non-GUI OS.... Amstrad was cool, u had to basically know how to code just
to run programs

-Ben

ummm.. it was a good post but i recall about 100 other mac users in here saying the same shit. i guess he did it in a nice way

forgie · Post by **forgie** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:25 pm

MrYellow wrote: edit: that being said, everyone could benefit from spending some time in a
non-GUI OS.... Amstrad was cool, u had to basically know how to code just
to run programs

Yeah, I've done a UNIX programming subject at uni, and believe me, I appreciate the fact that on my iBook I can write shell scripts and make use of open-source UNIX apps.... unlike XP where you have what to command prompts is something of a sick joke... I guess Microsoft thought they should kill off anything in the way of scripting so that people would have to learn Windows programming in order to do anything tricky, since that way more people in the world can program for Windows. Apple on the other hand give you a plethora of ways to code (or script) in whatever flavour you want (.NET excluded lol).

BTW I also have a PC desktop which I have to use for work (engineering).... grumbles

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:49 pm

I Think its amazing how conversations change.

Post started off with someone wondering why more laptop users use macs, (which isnt true) to which is better for scripting? atari windows or mac.

Amazing

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:10 pm

wilxon wrote:

Post started off with someone wondering why more laptop users use macs,
(which isnt true)

might be true, though...

but you can get easy that impression, i have worked here in Bratislava / Slovakia on one of the biggest electronic art music festivals in east europe last year, Wilsonic.
as a stage manager, from all artists which was about 30 if i remember correctly (and they where from all over the world!) 2 had PCs one lappy and one tower. the rest, powerbooks.

and everywhere else i have ever been to electronic music events, no matter where, and i have been all over the place in the whole of europe (spain, england, france, poland, chzech republic, germany, netherlands, slovakia, etc...)
i have hardly ever seen a single damn PC, no surprise, to me though...

so out of my view i would say the same, simply because i never spotted a PC used by an artist, but might be wrong. maybee i should go and get my eyes checked.

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:15 pm

maybe, i dont know.

I have seen a few of each, thinking about it maybe 65% macs.

I still see more people DJing on Decks.

WE ARE STILL A MINORITY - which is cool.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:22 pm

hi wilxon, no you are maybee right, what i mean is that it might be difficult to say, one goes to an event, PCs all over the place and the next one to an event Macs all over the place, so i guess it's really difficult to say.

like the debate about studio use as well and used apps, i discovered for example massive differences between the states and europe, and even within certain european countrys are differences of what is *majorly around and most used* PT for example is weaker used in europe then in the states, and DP is hardly around in europe... and so on, and so on...