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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:56 pm
by hoffman2k
Nokatus wrote:
Jed wrote: FLS and P5 can both host VSTi's in rewire slave mode
I was going to chime in on this as well. I'm sure it's not a limitation in ReWire, as there are products which are routinely used for running VST(i)s inside a ReWire slave in order to achieve augmented routing (namely, Bidule).

And, let me use this opportunity to rephrase my reaction to all this new Live 6 material: looking brilliant, thank you 8O <-- (still wide-eyed)
- Edit

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:12 pm
by ratafia50
Thanks Peeddrroo,

Link is a valuable function to edit drums....
Nudge is a adjustable shortcut that changes position of a track.
About the launch mode, I mean the following action and the chance A and B.

Thanks

um

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:26 pm
by da dude of halo2
um is sampler a tool you have to buy?

Im flipping out hamana hmana hugahw uga like the guy who trys this hot dog: goto hotdog parts in flash: http://www.knoxskorner.com/home.php?page=mm

Thats how much i am flipping out 8O

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:19 pm
by kineticUk
hoffman2k wrote:I think this works.
This is how i tested it. started up live 5, then live 6 in rewire slave mode..
Vst's and au's work..
Dunno if that would be any different from being slaved to protools or such..
Theres another amazing thing I wasn't even thinking this was possible.
Wow..
:D

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:39 pm
by hoffman2k
kineticUk wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:I think this works.
This is how i tested it. started up live 5, then live 6 in rewire slave mode..
Vst's and au's work..
Dunno if that would be any different from being slaved to protools or such..
Theres another amazing thing I wasn't even thinking this was possible.
Wow..
:D
I stand corrected. Doesn't seem to work with cubase.
Just works with Live to Live and you need soundflower..

Sorry :(

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:52 pm
by AdamJay
yea
doesn't work with PT or Logic either.

when i launch PT, then Live in slave mode - 3rd party plugs are not available.


sorry :(

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:08 am
by mikemc
kineticUk wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:I think this works.
This is how i tested it. started up live 5, then live 6 in rewire slave mode..
Vst's and au's work..
Dunno if that would be any different from being slaved to protools or such..
Theres another amazing thing I wasn't even thinking this was possible.
Wow..
:D
waitabbah... whutbuah...

is it now "officially possible" to run two instances of Live simultaneously? That is, load new sets into one while the other is playing?

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:09 am
by quandry
Hey AJ, sweetjesus, Rahlo, or any of the other lucky alpha males--I wondered if you might be able to answer a few quick live looping questions:

1) Does "midi select on launch" work reguardless of if the clip grid is in focus? ie if you most recently clicked on the browser or clip view and it is highlighted and "in focus", then you launch into recording a clip on a clip slot by triggering it via a midi cc command, is the clip selected so that hitting the "delete" qwerty key deletes the clip as it is recording? I sure hope so--this is how it was in Live 3, which I'm still using for live looping as "midi select on launch" was lost in 4, and only works in 5 if the clip grid is in "focus".

2) is there a way to midi map to the "delete" qwerty key to avoid workarounds of midi ox and bomes?

thanks, and thanks for the screenshots!

Ryan

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:20 am
by forge
mikemc wrote:
kineticUk wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:I think this works.
This is how i tested it. started up live 5, then live 6 in rewire slave mode..
Vst's and au's work..
Dunno if that would be any different from being slaved to protools or such..
Theres another amazing thing I wasn't even thinking this was possible.
Wow..
:D
waitabbah... whutbuah...

is it now "officially possible" to run two instances of Live simultaneously? That is, load new sets into one while the other is playing?
no - you stopped reading because you got excited! :wink:

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:20 am
by kineticUk
AdamJay wrote:yea
doesn't work with PT or Logic either.
when i launch PT, then Live in slave mode - 3rd party plugs are not available.
sorry :(
Oh its cool.
I was reading that Live now actually receives midi from the rewire master..is this true? So you could for example use the rewire masters sequencer to control Lives Instruments. Sounds great I always wanted this too.
:)
PS sorry about my bad attitude...I was well out of order in one of my posts..a dickhead basically. Sorry I wanted to apologise :oops:

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:39 am
by marsh
AdamJay wrote:yea
doesn't work with PT or Logic either.

when i launch PT, then Live in slave mode - 3rd party plugs are not available.


sorry :(
I am so absolutely gutted by this.............. what's so hard?.. really?.. FL does it..... =(

(GRRRRRRR!!!!)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:45 am
by forge
gomi wrote:
AdamJay wrote:
husker wrote:Wow...this stuff is HUGE :-)

Any piccies of the video support?

Screenshot #5

Quicktime movie import

video window can be positioned anywhere on the screen (and on a 2nd screen!) and is freely resizable. stays on top no matter where you are navigating in Live. The audio within the video is treated like an audio track. Warpable and can be automated/effected as usual.
So if you change the tempo the set, the video speed changes?

can you confirm this?
if that is what happens to the video then it is completely useless for
post production and scoring uses..
the movie should stay completely in sync with the timeline via smpte (timecode)

i hope hope hope it doesn't change the speed of the video when you
change the tempo, that will ruin my day.
basically, if you have a video clip showing, and you mess around with the warp markers then the global tempo changes to match the tempo changes you have made via the warp markers - if you then go down to the master tempo automation then hover over with the mouse the status bar (bottom left goes red and reads "you cannot change the song tempo because a video window is showing"

actually, here's a screenshot:

http://www.alexisforge.co.uk/video_example.gif

the video and audio are treated as seperate - the audio will speed up and slow down according to the markers, but the video wont

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:52 am
by rand
Huuuuuuh??...
Are you saying the video tracks audio 'warp markers' change the global tempo?!??!..

So does that mean I can finally create a 'tempo map'
to a dynamically played (non-click based) live performance???
Gawd I hope so... that'd fix one of my biggest needs.

(... and if this is true... this is what I'd do.)
+ make a master 'timing reference' movie with a dynamic tempo based audio track...
whose timing will become the LIVE songs master timing reference.
(I don't have to end up using the video at all.. nor the audio.)
+ import the video to LIVE, set warp markers to the various '1' downbeats in it's audio track...
+ mute the video tracks audio since it'll now speedup & down via the warp markers...
+ Import the original 'live performance' audio to a new track and not set warp markers (if I want to still use it).
+ Jam or compose with all the usual LIVE loops & such
to a dynamic Global tempo (based on the video's audio track).
Could be verrry cool unless I'm missig somethin.
Thanks
rand

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:08 am
by forge
rand wrote:Huuuuuuh??...
Are you saying the video tracks audio 'warp markers' change the global tempo?!??!..

So does that mean I can finally create a 'tempo map'
to a dynamically played (non-click based) live performance???
Gawd I hope so... that'd fix one of my biggest needs.

(... and if this is true... this is what I'd do.)
+ make a master 'timing reference' movie with a dynamic tempo based audio track...
whose timing will become the LIVE songs master timing reference.
(I don't have to end up using the video at all.. nor the audio.)
+ import the video to LIVE, set warp markers to the various '1' downbeats in it's audio track...
+ mute the video tracks audio since it'll now speedup & down via the warp markers...
+ Import the original 'live performance' audio to a new track and not set warp markers (if I want to still use it).
+ Jam or compose with all the usual LIVE loops & such
to a dynamic Global tempo (based on the video's audio track).
Could be verrry cool unless I'm missig somethin.
Thanks
rand
yep, that's exaclty right! and good tip, I was wondering how I'd do it as I dont know how to create a video

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:02 am
by rand
Wow...
Tempo Maps should be mentioned in the main LIVE 6 new features list.

Now all they need (ha) is a 'meter track'
and then non-machine tempo based songs could be dealt with.
(Which is most music until recent times.)
rand