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call the guys from zeitgeist there is some conspiracy going on here.

how can this still not work, seriously, every time i new version of live comes out i get excited that it will work for about three minutes before a topic resembling this appears.

ableton people please explain

theque wrote:ableton people please explain

Yes please explain.

you would not laugh if you have seen the shit i see every time i try to sync with live




you can watch the tempo change values up and down like a train wreak coming head on.

That's exactly what happened to us! Please give it a try, check an Edirol Midi Interface. After two years of syncin' nightmare we finally found peace with this solution...

Can Anybody tell me if this ISSUE has being sorted out in live 8

Thanks

no not yet?

b0unce wrote:if your mom's dead...who ties your shoe laces ?
get them to read you the manual

Answer: b0unce's mom...

i find that clock timing drift happens with some midi interfaces but not with others. i.e. it happens when i use the midi out from the motu ultralite, but not when i use my midisport or uc33 midi out. maybe you can borrow someone's midi interface and see if it makes any difference...

sans soleil wrote:i find that clock timing drift happens with some midi interfaces but not with others. i.e. it happens when i use the midi out from the motu ultralite, but not when i use my midisport or uc33 midi out. maybe you can borrow someone's midi interface and see if it makes any difference...

Cheers will try that the next time

cosmosuave wrote:Answer: b0unce's mom...

heh, that's...like, the second puerile 'your mom' dig you've given me in as many slurs.
Your putdowns are as imaginative as the derivative 4/4 shite you pass off as musak.
Bald headed, fake-tan applying Cunt.

I can sync my MD to Live via Ultralite perfectly now.. don‘t know if it‘s the new computer or Live 8. Btw thanks for fixing the bug where you had to restart Live to have changes in the sync delay take effect.

Hey Daim,
any chance you could maybe post a wav of the solid sync in action ? Not that I doubt you, but I'd love to hear a digital snare sample with a fast attack (or some thing similar) with rigid quantization layered over an identical pattern on the MD ..... maybe load up a few sample clips, midi clips in live (but muted) and launch them whilst recording, just to see if any kind of usage fucks with the time. ...

That‘s almost how I tested it. I took a simple bassdrum with short attack and recorded it. Then i played it in another track and compared that to the actual MD output. I hear slight phasing effects most of the time. But it‘s not getting worse after a while or getting completely out of sync like it did before. Will post sth tomorrow. Btw the first hit is still messed up but that doesn‘t bother me.

I‘m uploading it to the sharing beta right now.

Edit: Just aborted. While recording it sounded fine. Now when playing both clips it‘s not in sync anymore. Strange, got no track delay set..

Edit2: Will upload it anyway

I'll give it a listen later, cheers.

BTW you really shouldn't waste your time testing/proving sync without also launching (muted) midi & sample clips in the background...

You are totally right. The example I uploaded proves that it‘s staying in sync perfectly as long as there is no plugin loaded. As soon as I load a plugin into a muted clip the liveinput of the MD is shifting and I can hear a delay between the recorded clip and the liveinput.

That‘s so obvious a Live bug.. hard to believe they didn‘t notice it. Propably they tested without having plugins loaded up.


Ableton!!!!! Test your midi sync with plugins loaded!!!! I‘m uploading an example of this behaviour to the sharing beta.