friend_kami wrote:i like trent reznor
kill self.
chrisedmo wrote:I buy his albums when they come out - just to see what he's been doing.. He's got a great ear and has a great level of perfectionism in his sounds... thats what i like most about NIN - the sounds he gets..
That said, the 'music' is a little so so nowadays.. I think he'd make a great producer.
he'd make a terrible producer.
Heard Niggy Tarshite ?
telepathy51 wrote:Some people have great lyrics and the ability to push the limits sonically but I can't think of anyone doing it these days.
You fail at listening to good music.
Kill self.
Moody wrote:
What else do you think it takes to become famous? Work; so start doing some.
it takes a floppy emo haircut, with floppy emo rhetoric coming out of the wearers poncey face, a kind of pseudo-edgey androgynous wardrobe, lots of MTV exposure, BEEF with Limp Dickzit (the poster boys for another MTV demograph of cabbages), and of course tonnes of teeny bopper 'why-haven't-my-balls-dropped-yet' angst.
Naturally once you've got all that Interscope will tug your plumbs for years to come.
mdk wrote:the downward spiral
agreed.
He definitely should have OD'd shortly after that, perhaps on stage. At least before the fragile was released. I'm pretty sure The Fragile might be interesting if it was a posthumous LP.
Silverfish wrote:ask yourself: Do I like this music? Yes or no? Why or why not?
If the answer is no, and your reasons have nothing to do with the music, then shut the fuck up. STFU. Let me spell it out for you: SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Are you dense ?
It's all about the music baby, first and foremost NIN music has been flat and toothless and shit for ages. His poncing about in the media is just a by-product of his SUCK.
logic_user99 wrote:
Actually, NIN, Daft Punk, and BT's music isn't shit - you just think it's shit. That's your opinion and that's fine. They all, however, write excellent music whether you like it or not.
Nobody has the right, aside from the artist who wrote it, to say that one type of music or one band are shit. You can however, express that you feel their music isn't up to much.
this band is shit = this band isn't up to much
So wtf are you talking about ?
BTW NIN and BT both make shit music. Undeniable fact. Daft Punk are still given the benefit of the doubt for that one goodish album they made, Homework, However if they put out another poppers-bombshell like Discovery they'll suck harder than Kylie Minogue (die bitch)
LOFA wrote:Everything he did up until and including Downward Spiral I love (and the related remix albums). Everything afterwards has been, imo, a tragic embarrassing-to-listen-to waste.
Yes.
Straight from the sensible horse's mouth.
landrvr1 wrote:
Townes Van Zandt
Yes.
yearlongyeti wrote:Hurt, good song. Played better by Johnny cash, produced amazingly by Rick Rubin. But still written by Trent. Industrial music isnt my cup of tea but a good song is a good song.
A good song from 'The Downward Spiral'. Who would have known the album title was a literal reference to his musical output from that point on.
abort wrote:I really liked year zero and and the new idea's that were apart of it. Actually speaking up about more worldly things was a good change ..and I hope that his next one will be different all together.
I never will post about a band tobe debated unless their New!
Year Zero sucked, which means you suck.
funknotik wrote:As for why Trent Reznor is a big deal, I would say the innovation of coming up with that sound. When Linkin Park or any of these teeny bopper bands try to do the same it sounds like shit, they are just weak in comparison. So it's his sound, his contribution and no one can hold a candle too it. He was using early Reaktor when it was a piece of shit, experimenting with alot of sound design when it wasn't very common place.
he's famous because he's an airbrushed ponce on MTV and simpletons like you find him edgey and aware of what it's like for you as a disenfranchised genius who counts the hairs on his nutsack and who's mom won't let you borrow the car to go to the big game.
Machinesworking wrote:funknotik wrote:As for why Trent Reznor is a big deal, I would say the innovation of coming up with that sound.
Honestly, the ignorance in that one sentence is one of the main reasons NIN are annoying now. when I was a kid, and he first came out, it was because he took great ideas from groups I loved and watered it down into mainstream pop music. Now it's because people like you who have no clue about industrial music think Trent invented his sound in a vacuum, that he did anything at all original, and yeah, I'm talking about Pretty Hate Machine.
yes.
Ugh. I actually remember that kind of shit.
Plus that whole thing reeks of a set-up anyways. Like wrestling drama, or rappers-beef. Both fucking ACTS reap in the dough. And they're on the same label. they're both money whores. and they're both MTV darlings. and between them both they corner a nice big chunk of the money haemoraging angsty-teen demograph. Leave it to Destiny's Child to mop up the rest. Or whoever was on mop up duty at the time.
leisuremuffin wrote:cab voltaire and TG suck? and nin is an innovation?
are we in some sort of bizzarro universe?
Thankfully not. The people who suggested that are full of the wrongness.
funknotik wrote:Machinesworking wrote:
Fuck I am so glad he couldn't figure out how to use their sound. He hems and haws, but admits he tried to 'extract' what was interesting to him from their music.
At least there's one group he's not panning in an interview though. My BIGGEST gripe with him is that he almost never talks about groups he's fond of, it's always groups he doesn't like etc. makes him look insecure.
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When I see an idiot like Fred Durst [of Limp Bizkit] spouting off about, 'I'm in it for the money, buy my record, buy two copies of it, I'm going to be the best business man, I'm just doing this till I get into movies' -- [he should] sell dish-washing liquid or something. It's damaged music. I don't mean him personally, but this climate has created a very unhealthy situation to spawn new creative acts." Trent Reznor
How can you be against that? Limp Bizkit fucking sucks,,
Because it's just empty-drama to sell (nin/limp) records to the impressionable douches tuning into MTV.
abort wrote:
All this talk made me realize how much you rock NIN ..and how much you could kill.
I rest my case
so after all that talk no one has yet managed to make a convincing argument that Trent is anything but two-ends of a cunt. Awesome.
