Why do you hate EDM? "House, Trance, Techno"

friendselectric · Post by **friendselectric** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:04 am

robin wrote:Shake, Carl Craig, Henrik Schwarz, Aardvarck, Morgan Geist, Todd Terje, DJ YoavB (in fact Delsin, Rush Hour etc as labels), Lindstrom...

Those are just off the top of my head.

good roll call, whats in the bottom of your head?

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:09 am

friendselectric wrote:
robin wrote:Shake, Carl Craig, Henrik Schwarz, Aardvarck, Morgan Geist, Todd Terje, DJ YoavB (in fact Delsin, Rush Hour etc as labels), Lindstrom...

Those are just off the top of my head.
good roll call, whats in the bottom of your head?

for me it's kind of hard to name just new stuff as I'm constantly buying old _and_ new things.

Old chicago house, detroit techno, old italo disco, old funk, King Tubby-era dub etc etc, 80s electro....

People who moan about not being able to find music need to try harder. It's imposssible to be aware of all of it so digging that bit deeper always reveals something.

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:40 pm

Just heard Les Rhythme Digitales' "Music Makes You Lose Control."

Great... especially the guitar & drums.

I imagine it's the kind of stuff that's slagged off by those of you in the know as "not underground enough"...

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:42 pm

hambone1 wrote:Just heard Les Rhythme Digitales' "Music Makes You Lose Control."

Great... especially the guitar & drums...

I imagine it's the kind of stuff that's slagged off by those of you in the know as "not underground enough"...

Yeah dig deeper than that

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:50 pm

I tend to find electronic music too... ummm... electronic!

There's something about the organic real sound of fret noise and sweaty hands poppin' an E-string, rather than some cold oscillator, or the rattle of a real snare that sounds different every time it's hit, rather than some exactly-the-same white-noise-simulated-snare-kinda-sound. Ho hum... {yawn}...

I'd rather feel the bass player and drummer that know when to push or lag and lock together, rather than the metronomic perfection of electrons and their perfectly quantized tempo and timing.

I realize all electronic music isn't like this. I need to dig a bit more...

That's just me, though. It's a good thing we're all different!

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:13 pm

hambone1 wrote: That's just me, though. It's a good thing we're all different!

Fair enough. You should try some real disco (I don't mean chart stuff) electronic and organic in one.

Somaething that Larry Levan touched like this.
It might be to your taste I dunno.

For something more raw mebbe ESG (look up Soul Jazz records for a compilation).

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:16 pm

Already got just about all the Larry Levan tracks!

That's the feel I'd like to get from EDM...

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:17 pm

hambone1 wrote:
robin wrote:Somaething that Larry Levan touched like this.
Already got just about all of those tracks!

Ahh common ground.

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:19 pm

hambone1 wrote:Already got just about all the Larry Levan tracks!

That's the feel I'd like to get from EDM...

There's a rawness and looseness that went into early chicago house music and certain types of detroit techno that you might enjoy then. You might be aware of that though I dunno.

martin808 · Post by **martin808** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:06 pm

hey Robin, Friendselectric and anyone else interested. some friends of mne run NSD (north south divide) and they do a podcast. I mixed the wedding set on NSD*8 which might be up your street.

it looks like this:
Zimmerbass Mix by Crapton Dogger and Spencer
Asswade - Pub Tire (Mango)
DJ Hunch - Space Bubble On A Sunday (Stones Throw)
Letroset - Posatronic Migraine (Atak)
Man with Voice - Song with Beat (Warp)
Captain Bass - Late Night Ragamuffin Hot Patty (Throw)
Is Who? - Nice Car (Stoofrekkids/Highpoint Lowlife)
Accident and Emergency - Quarter Pizza Supper (Warp)
Three Head - Some Pain (Percy P Mix) (Domino)

Point.One Wedding Set
The Human League - The Things That Dreams Are Made Of
Letroset - Herz Aus Glas ( Point.One)
Dr John - Jetset (clem daphonics edit)
Gwen Guthrie - Getting Hot (Larry Levan mix)
Tom Tom Cub - Genius Of Love
Harlequin Fours - Set It Off
Todd Terje - Eurodans
Brooks - MasterMix
Kenny "Jammin" Jason & Fast Eddie - Can U Dance
Kingpin Cartel - Moogie Nites
John Davis - Flashcan (Citinite)

Sugar Rush Funeral Mix by Spencer
Noah - Paul Daniels vs the Queen of Clubs (Brif)
Falloot - The Day Before (Fourth Floor)
Adidas Trakky - Let The Warriors Prance (Warriors Dance)
DJ Roland Butter - Haggis Rap (Acid Kid)
Chatty Bastards - For Those Who Like It Smooth (Profile)
Squarepusher - A Journey To Reedham (5.56am mix) (Warp)

get it here:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSt ... 8&s=143444

or for an RSS feed, here:
http://www.northsouthdivide.com/podcast/podcast.xml

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:09 pm

Nice one Martin...I'll be sure to check that out!

Edit: Might be a dumb question but is it easy to get a podcast published/advertised on the itunes site like that?

quandry · Post by **quandry** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:19 pm

hambone1 wrote:I tend to find electronic music too... ummm... electronic!

There's something about the organic real sound of fret noise and sweaty hands poppin' an E-string, rather than some cold oscillator, or the rattle of a real snare that sounds different every time it's hit, rather than some exactly-the-same white-noise-simulated-snare-kinda-sound. Ho hum... {yawn}...

I'd rather feel the bass player and drummer that know when to push or lag and lock together, rather than the metronomic perfection of electrons and their perfectly quantized tempo and timing.

I realize all electronic music isn't like this. I need to dig a bit more...

That's just me, though. It's a good thing we're all different!

I'm totally with you, fellow bass player!!! The best thing I can imagine in the vein of what you are searching for are the "Verve: Remixed" cds, where modern "dance" (for lack of a better term) producers remix songs from the verve vaults--willie bobo, sarah vaughn, billie holiday--it is some good stuff. Volume I (they're up to 3 now) is the best for me.

Also, though it might not fall into any EDM genre, Dzihan and Kamien from Austria are some great artists/producers--check out Gran Riserva or their new live disc with a big ol' band--awesome stuff, totally what you want--live everything (bass, drums, keys, guitar, strings, percussion, vocals) and it kicks ass.

Also, Luke Vibert is one of my favorites these days, especially his Wagon Christ stuff. Again, not sure what catagorization if any he would fall into, but the WC album "Musipal" is great--really interesting production, very "live" sounding instrumentation and playing.

Also, though maybe more hip hop or IDM than EDM (I hate pigeonhole terms as much as these artists do), Bonobo, Jazzanova, Ratatat, Blockhead, Four Tet, and Prefuse 73 are all really intersting "electronic" artists that incorporate a fair amount of live instruments into their stuff. You will probably not find a four on the floor kick on anything I've mentioned except for the Verve remixes. Hope this helps!

martin808 · Post by **martin808** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:22 pm

robin wrote:
Edit: Might be a dumb question but is it easy to get a podcast published/advertised on the itunes site like that?

dunno mate. I've got nothing to do with that side of things. I'll try find out for you though.

kennerb · Post by **kennerb** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:46 pm

hambone1 wrote:I tend to find electronic music too... ummm... electronic!

There's something about the organic real sound of fret noise and sweaty hands poppin' an E-string, rather than some cold oscillator, or the rattle of a real snare that sounds different every time it's hit, rather than some exactly-the-same white-noise-simulated-snare-kinda-sound. Ho hum... {yawn}...

I'd rather feel the bass player and drummer that know when to push or lag and lock together, rather than the metronomic perfection of electrons and their perfectly quantized tempo and timing.

I realize all electronic music isn't like this. I need to dig a bit more...

That's just me, though. It's a good thing we're all different!

Give these guys a listen if you haven't ever before. Touch of Cloth is one of my all time favorite albums.

http://www.amazon.com/Fila-Brazillia/ar ... 64-9067041

Scube · Post by **Scube** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:22 pm

djsentinel wrote:This topic is here to explore why people here at this forum don't like EDM, trance as the most hated. And please give legit reasons. No "its too repetitive or I don't like it."

This is sure to be fun

Pce,
DJS

mah..I love tech-based genres since I had 13 years (17 years ago) and for one decade I listened this kind of music only.

Scube

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