Never go clothes shopping after a full meal

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:43 am

^ lol @ you bunch of girls

kaffein · Post by **kaffein** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:49 am

http://www.ableton.com/pages/shop/more_ ... to_cart_ri

They need this in short sleeve.

Hidden Driveways · Post by **Hidden Driveways** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:13 am

Sparklepuff, they need you!

Baron von Case · Post by **Baron von Case** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:33 am

What kind of fucked up world do we live in where you can find XXXL in stores but not an XS or sometimes even an S? Fuck this shit.

And they just discontinued Lee 29x30 jeans in stores.

Sucks to be a thin person in a fat world.

massiveheadpain · Post by **massiveheadpain** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:59 pm

for me its not so much the trouble of finding clothes i like, its that fact that i have no money

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:51 pm

This is one of my favorite subjects... clothes!

I'm a bit of a clotheshorse; I shop on a very regular basis. I'm 6' 165 lbs. 31 years old. I'm pretty much always safe with a medium, and living in Cleveland you find plenty still left on the clothes racks! 'Round here, it's XXL or bust (no pun intended.) I can pretty much go into most stores and find what I want.

I usually shop either online (Hefjina in Chicago where I pick up sale Band of Outsiders stuff) or even local department stores... I'm usually always safe with Calvin Klein and Kenneth Cole. Those are usually two good brands when it comes to dressing both professional and in style. Occasionally, when I run over my friends house to watch a Cavaliers game or up to a local watering hole, I'll throw on a plain black hooded sweatshirt and a pair of Vans but usually, I dress like I just got off of work... which in most cases I did. My advice is that unless you have a ton of money and you are just ultra-trnedy, stay clear of the (in my opinion) awful Express or H&M stores... the clothes are made of shit-fabric and are out of style in what seems like weeks. For the same amount of money, or less, you can grab something on sale by Calvin Klein or Kenneth Cole which you will get a lot more mileage out of.

This time of year I like to wear button ups; either plain neutral colors or vertical stripes with a black or grey sweater vest and a nice pair of straight leg pants; usually black or charcoal. No pinstripes for me. On Friday's I wear jeans. When it gets cold I like wearing those rollneck heavy sweathers from J-Crew (total staples... I'v ehad mine for years) along with a simple grey toggle coat or even a down parka, which is affordable, lightweight and really warm. You can rock the North Face (I have one) or you can save yourself some money and buy one without a logo for about $60 from LL Bean. Both look great.

I'd love to give fashion advice to anyone that has any questions. I'm a straight guy and a huge advocate of dressing well. It truly does open so many doors; that and good manners and a nice short haircut.

Advice of the day;if you are a single guy find (and use) the nearest dry cleaner. Heck, even if you are in a relationship; use the DRY CLEANER. It makes all the difference in the world. If you are willing to invest in your wardrobe invest in taking care of it.

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:54 pm

massiveheadpain wrote:for me its not so much the trouble of finding clothes i like, its that fact that i have no money

Where do you live? Is there a Macy's or other department store nearby? I suggest checking out the sales racks. There are insane deals to be had. If you see something that you are in love with at regular price keep your eye on it; chances are that it will end up on the sales rack within a few weeks; at nearly 50% off!

Hidden Driveways · Post by **Hidden Driveways** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:08 pm

Yes. As girly as this topic is, it's true. Dressing sharp is really tricky. Everything is such a fine line. Either you're too dressy looking, or too casual looking, or too loose, or too baggy, too monotone, too loud.

I understand Beat Me's frustration. But I can say this:

BM, if you're worried about looking too much like a hipster, then you're sort of painting an insecurity on yourself. Textbook hipsters are lame, it's true. But a lot of the looks they have co-opted are actually good looks. They take them and turn them into a uniform. They are conformists. Just because they get it wrong doesn't mean that you can't get a look right. What's lame about hipsters is not going to be what's lame about Beats Me.

I agree with thelike5. Dressing sharp is important. Even if you're married and you've been married for 15 years, your wife will like that you look sharp, even if she doesn't admit it. When you dress like a slob, you will feel like a slob.

You make like looking like a slob, and that's fine. Dressing sharp isn't for everyone. But, one of the main reasons why looking good is impressive is that it is really difficult.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:26 pm

slobs FTW!!

what the fuck is up with men's jeans sizes? I bought some the other night and a 36/32 fit just like a 33/32. 4 trips to the dressing room to find something that fits! and these are basic Levi's!!

I dress like a slob at work when I'm busy, when I'm not busy I'll wear the occasional button down. haven't worn a tie in years, thank god.

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:28 pm

Hidden Driveways wrote:Yes. As girly as this topic is, it's true. Dressing sharp is really tricky. Everything is such a fine line. Either you're too dressy looking, or too casual looking, or too loose, or too baggy, too monotone, too loud.

I understand Beat Me's frustration. But I can say this:

BM, if you're worried about looking too much like a hipster, then you're sort of painting an insecurity on yourself. Textbook hipsters are lame, it's true. But a lot of the looks they have co-opted are actually good looks. They take them and turn them into a uniform. They are conformists. Just because they get it wrong doesn't mean that you can't get a look right. What's lame about hipsters is not going to be what's lame about Beats Me.

I agree with thelike5. Dressing sharp is important. Even if you're married and you've been married for 15 years, your wife will like that you look sharp, even if she doesn't admit it. When you dress like a slob, you will feel like a slob.

You make like looking like a slob, and that's fine. Dressing sharp isn't for everyone. But, one of the main reasons why looking good is impressive is that it is really difficult.

This is a good response... If you classify a "hipster" as someone who wears rimless, squared off glasses, argyle sweaters and cuffed jeans I won't argue with you; I'll say that looks like a hipster alright... albiet a 21 year old version...

As you enter your 30's you shouldn't be afraid to pick up a fashion magazine and take note of what men your age are wearing. I don't care if it's an actor or whatever; dress in the fashion that makes the most sense for your interests... god, explaining this CAN be tough. Doing it however, for me, isn't! If you are a bartender rock some decent jeans and a nice fitting short or longsleeve t-shirt. If you are a public relations professional, such as I am, you might want to diversify your wardrobe. Make it make sense for your job and/or interets. Your personality is what made you make the friends you made and probably had a lot to do with you getting the position you got. Dress to reflect your personality.

If you are an overweight dude eating shit-food everyday with his gut bumping into his keyboard, with no energy, chances are you need to do a lot more than the average guy. Excersise, get a haircut and don't be afraid to PM me with any questions. I'd be glad to help.

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:33 pm

The other problem is I am 5'6" and there is a large Asian community where I live so that smallish sized clothes just flies off the racks. I don't know how it is where other people live but I often wonder if it's a store's purpose to turn a profit or to keep the racks filled because it's always the same size clothes that are left on the rack that apparently nobody is buying. Putting on a few pounds actually expanded availability.

Also this is generally the size clothes that high end in style designers design in but are expensive. If I had the money I'd probably be in heaven but I don't. I have a friend my size who will drop more on one article of clothing than I'll spend on my entire wardrobe in a year.

The other thing is that when I go out I usually hope to end up at a place where you can dance. Business casual is not a style for dancing. You look like a douche at a wedding reception. Maybe it's just my own perception that I am underdressed when in fact it's everybody else who is overdressed.

Hidden Driveways · Post by **Hidden Driveways** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:46 pm

This is a look that you can use in multiple settings. The key is getting a thin-ish sweater paying attention to details. You don't want the neck-trim (for lack of a better term) to be frumpy or bulky or nerdy. The plaid button up under a nice sweater like this is with a sweet looking pair of pants or jeans or whatever is my latest discovery:

This will work in a club, at work, on a date, with the family at Thanksgiving.

I can't believe this thread exists and I'm posting in it, but whatever. This shit is hard.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:50 pm

sorry man, but I'd have to kick my own ass if I was wearing that.

Hidden Driveways · Post by **Hidden Driveways** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:02 pm

Tone Deft wrote:sorry man, but I'd have to kick my own ass if I was wearing that.

Fair enough, but how about posting what you think BM should wear to da club.

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:10 pm

beats me wrote:The other problem is I am 36 and have no idea how to dress without looking like a hipster. At this age the government should have issued me a wife and a few kids so that I no longer have to give a shit how I dress but unfortunately they didn't.

I'm 36, and still wearing the same exact shit i wore in my 20's

saves money for gear.