Dig Glitch-Hop?

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:28 pm

funkstörung released their first tracks in '96. They're glitch hop to the bone, have done some of the illest mixes.

quick youtube drop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FZytEZ5ee0

Nick the Zombie · Post by **Nick the Zombie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:15 pm

I love this stuff. I've gotten to the point where this style naturally flows out when I sit down to write.

Geezus · Post by **Geezus** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:32 am

Machinate wrote:funkstörung released their first tracks in '96. They're glitch hop to the bone, have done some of the illest mixes.

quick youtube drop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FZytEZ5ee0

dude that's one of my favorite tracks of theirs (off my favorite album too). i didnt know they had a video!

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:00 am

you can make a new style by simply attaching glitch to it.

glitch trance
glitch dubstep
glitch gangsta rap
glitch happy hardcore
glitch industrial ?

the idea can be interesting any way you use it but it's still just tacking two genres together which isn't much to celebrate as "OH LORDY THIS IS NEW!"

Geezus · Post by **Geezus** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:24 am

Johnisfaster wrote:you can make a new style by simply attaching glitch to it.

glitch trance
glitch dubstep
glitch gangsta rap
glitch happy hardcore
glitch industrial ?

the idea can be interesting any way you use it but it's still just tacking two genres together which isn't much to celebrate as "OH LORDY THIS IS NEW!"

a) all invention can be described as taking two or more preexisting things and tacking them together

b) the music came first, the term "glitch hop" came later, so it wasn't some concerted effort to make a whole new genre or something. People just start making the kind of music they would like to hear.

Something I forgot to mention: lots of GREAT mixes to download at
http://mk2systems.com/memekast/

my favs are seventhswami, cumulus, Ganucheau, ah fuck just get them all you'll thank me.

Check out Ganucheau for something different. not glitch hop at all. more like, meloncholy idm classical. I dont know how to describe it but its fucking great.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:29 am

Geezus wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:you can make a new style by simply attaching glitch to it.

glitch trance
glitch dubstep
glitch gangsta rap
glitch happy hardcore
glitch industrial ?

the idea can be interesting any way you use it but it's still just tacking two genres together which isn't much to celebrate as "OH LORDY THIS IS NEW!"
a) all invention can be described as taking two or more preexisting things and tacking them together

b) the music came first, the term "glitch hop" came later, so it wasn't some concerted effort to make a whole new genre or something. People just start making the kind of music they would like to hear.

Something I forgot to mention: lots of GREAT mixes to download at
http://mk2systems.com/memekast/

my favs are seventhswami, cumulus, Ganucheau, ah fuck just get them all you'll thank me.

Check out Ganucheau for something different. not glitch hop at all. more like, meloncholy idm classical. I dont know how to describe it but its fucking great.

I'm not downing it, nothing wrong with tacking 2 things together. but to me nothing seems new anymore it's just fusion which isn't breathtaking or anything. fusions cool though, without it we wouldn't have any of the music we currently have.

you don't think the idea came before the music? I'm pretty certain some people sat down and thought "I want to make some hip hop with glitches in it" I'm pretty certain it was premeditated.

Geezus · Post by **Geezus** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:05 am

Johnisfaster wrote:
Geezus wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:you can make a new style by simply attaching glitch to it.

glitch trance
glitch dubstep
glitch gangsta rap
glitch happy hardcore
glitch industrial ?

the idea can be interesting any way you use it but it's still just tacking two genres together which isn't much to celebrate as "OH LORDY THIS IS NEW!"
a) all invention can be described as taking two or more preexisting things and tacking them together

b) the music came first, the term "glitch hop" came later, so it wasn't some concerted effort to make a whole new genre or something. People just start making the kind of music they would like to hear.

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I'm not downing it, nothing wrong with tacking 2 things together. but to me nothing seems new anymore it's just fusion which isn't breathtaking or anything. fusions cool though, without it we wouldn't have any of the music we currently have.

you don't think the idea came before the music? I'm pretty certain some people sat down and thought "I want to make some hip hop with glitches in it" I'm pretty certain it was premeditated.

yeah buy I dont think it was a premeditated attempt at a whole new genere to tack a label on or anything. Its just some people who liked idm/glitch and also came from a hip hop background and made something they wanted to hear themselves: glitched out hip hop. All I'm saying is that glitch hop came from people making music they wanted to hear themselves that wasnt really out there, not people attempting to cash in on a gimmick or anything.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:39 am

oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not cool that they are doing it I'm just saying "meh..." ya know? more power to them if they are doing what they want to do.

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:24 pm

Geezus wrote:It's been huge in the burning man community and san fransisco bay area for a long time now. There are a lot of others besides glitch mob, including vibesquad, seventh swami, flying lotus, funkstorung, nosajthing, etc. Its fun to party to.

Lets not forget Lazer Sword!

Just caught them on the East Coast last week. Those dudes are nasty!

scientist · Post by **scientist** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:41 pm

i've been championing this style for about ten years now, new listeners are always welcome. the touchstone for the whole style imo is the 'tried by 12' double lp that came out on chocolate industries. lots and lots of idm weirdo's remixing a single hip hop track. others (some already mentioned): funkstorung (and now CLP), riow arai, machine drum, the first few jimmy edgar releases on m3rck, gousseion (and more on run riot records). historically art of noise and mantronix (e.g in full effect megamix) had a huge influence on developing the cut-up style.

plenty of it in my mixes here:
http://strongforthefuture.com/?page_id=156

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:17 pm

just what we need another gangster rapper, oops! my bad we're talking about glitchin and stutterin errrr

DJDJ · Post by **DJDJ** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:50 pm

Nice one, EgAD

Honestly, it's weird to see my friends and "scene" represented here, but at the same time, it's long overdue. Nice suprise.

ALthough the term "glitch hop" is used for the glitch mob et all, it's not totally fair to use, for, as others pointed out, there are many other pioneers of different sounds that have been around for years that could also be rightly called "glitch hop", IMO.

As already said, this sound has been a huge staple of the US west coast underground (aka: burning man & related) communities. It obviously has it's roots in lots of styles, but a lot it's inspration came from Tipper's Tip Hop stuff, Si Begg, Lawgiverz, Bil Bless, Bassnectar (who has been caning his take on this sound for years), funkstorung, etc. etc....

I know for fact most of the glitch mob boys are huge fans of early fuel records and the UK sound in general.

Even though this has been THE sound of the west coast underground for years now, it's been difficult to get it to catch on overseas. Most of the pioneers of this style haven't had much luck playing in this BPM zone while abroad.

Perhaps with the rise in popularity of Dubstep, the euro populous will finally be ready for the realization that you can slow down the BPM and still ROCK THE FUCK OUT!!!!

I jest, slightly, cause I know europe is the EDM motherland, and just about every sonic formula has already been tried by somebody over there already.....

Anyways, I'm happy to hear that the sound is catching on. It's a great style and worthy of attention. Funny thing is, it's almost a played out sound by this point on the west coast. Funny how others catch on after it's already caned to bits. However, keep your ears peeled to the west coast, there's tons of innovation happening here.

Others who are lower or different profile but still worthy of attention:

(along side bassnectar, tipper, si begg, et all..)

EPROM
Jantsen
Vibesquad
Welder/Eskmo

Tons more that I can't think of right now.

Also worthy to check the tracks of the glitch mob artists individually. They've all made dope music on their own! Kraddy is amazing by himself, and Ooah's new remix of Fine Cut Bodies is Choice!

Mr Mowgli · Post by **Mr Mowgli** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:30 pm

I think 'Glitch-Hop' has a good ammount of ceative prospects, It still has much time to incorporate Substep, Grime, Metal, and all sorts of genres, I thinks its a breath of fresh air compared to what is the general sound around today

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:21 pm

HATED IT!

quandry · Post by **quandry** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:17 pm

I saw Glitch Mob live between set breaks at a Soundtribe Sector 9 show, and they just didn't do it for me. In general I like the sound of glitchy hip hop, Prefuse 73's One Word Extinguisher is still a top-ten album to me (and he CLEARLY is an influence GM owes a LOT of their sound to).

I guess for me seeing them live--I tend to prefer live bands like soundtribe. I'm happy to watch a good laptop performer, but find it hard to see past the excessive hip hop hand waves, and the stink face knob-turning action--dude, it's not hard to turn a knob, let's not try to become the Pete Townsend of knob turning and slight fader adjustments--just turn the knob, don't make some big production out of it. I guess the visual of all four GM guys doing this for a hour, when in the end I could see/hear that the majority of what I was listening to was all pre-programmed, wasn't really impressing me.

That, plus, like a lot of other specialized sub-genres, it all just starts to sound the same and after fifteen minutes I'm wayyy over the stuttering glitches and prefusified vocals--one trick pony alert. I guess that's party why I still dig One Word Extinguisher so much--it sounded fresh then and still does, and has a lot of variety to the various songs, and he isn't over-indulging in the glitchyness--he uses it very effectively/musically without going overboard (not so much on subsequent albums....). My two cents at least, to each their own, feel free to flame me....

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