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I hate everything.

SubFunk wrote:I hate everything.

Hd

On one hand trance has sold a lot, and a lot more than I would ever hope to sell of what I've done, and progressed the adoption of positive aspects of the electronic music "idiom", and it has established some nice 'riffs' in the use of effects and layered instrumentation.

I would hate that someone pidgenholed some track I did because I borrowed some aspect of trance.

On the other hand, it does some things to death, and when people start to argue the finer points of Dutch style vs. Goa vs. Psytrance you kind of wish they'd start convulsing and bleeding from the eyes shortly before they explode into a gelatinous mist.

Rave wrote:

heavensdaw wrote:I actually hate the pigeonholing that goes with music. It makes people be even more 'narrow minded' than they are normally.. It exists more for marketing nerds than for musicians and he public... It is all about brainwashing not enjoying..

Hd

At the end of the day there are only two genres of music my friend : good and bad.

i thought you were gonna say there are only two genres of music my friend: good and trance

It's a proven and well known fact: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music

That trance music was 100% created on inferior PC's, (Macs are incapable of making such shite), by Anti-American Arabs who proposed to de-stablise the Music industry by promoting free downloading of their music on the internet and thus devaluing music forever!

Fuck you! You trance loving PC using terrorist!
















Sasha is arabic for: SandStorm.

The only thing that would bother me is (IF) ..Say I posted some link up about this "trance" track that I though was cool, inspired me or what ever. and then some one comes along and says some negative shit about it thinking their opinion is going to sway my initial thought, ..or that some how they're above it.?

Or if I say yeah this sounds a lot like so and so, but some band member posted back saying that I'm a fucking idiot for thinking that. WOW

The Bitch Post Hijackers!

xherv wrote:For me, I think it's just that bad trance is *so* bad and gives all electronic music a bad reputation since a lot of people associate the genre with everything else in the domain of electronic music. I feel like bad trance is the Hot Topic of electronic music.

Or people who call every genre of electronica Techno. That predates the blanket hatred of Trance and continues to this day.

I hated trance from 1991 to 1998. It was techno, dnb, and house only from my decks! Now I hate house, dislike techno, and can listen to dnb from time to time. 1998 I started fusion dj sets from trancy techno to prog trance. Since 2000 ive been producing trance, still do and love it. Psychedelic twisted though, not normal or prog. I still hate tiesto trance!

So guess im on mikemcs hate list

Bollox to it - i make trance, elctro house, funky house, tech house, just plain house or whatever the f*** else you want to label bits of a track as.

TBH - I cant make my mind up - I steal from and get influenced by all sort of music - the more the merrier IMHO - music of da house!

I'd never have guessed the 'woodwork' housed so many!

Hd

I think the whole, "off beat stabs, snare rolls, noise sweep downs," is getting tired.

I also think that whatever labels are around with the ability to market, are doing so with music that can be pigeonholed. Some of it is good music, some of it is bad. Either way, most people can only find music to listen too, that has been heavily promoted. There isn't much fresh, new and experimental on Beatport. There is an array of artists calling each other innovative, but really its nothing much of the sort.

This is money, this is people. People like music, they know they like. This is what they can be sold, and it isn't changing any time soon. There is some really great trance, and there is some really great rap, country, opera, new wave, metal, nu metal, alternative, etc........



There is also a lot of over-marketed crap, hailed as pure genius... From Creed to Tiesto, to Armin Van Beuren to Akon.. Etc....

Rave wrote:

SubFunk wrote:I hate everything.

Can I join that club? I cant afford the other one you started

You lucky bastard, this one got free entry

I don't despise genres.

I despise certain songs, and that's about it.

But never genres.

There are some trance tracks that I simply can't stand at all (but other people enjoy them), and then there are others that I really enjoy.

nathannn wrote:sasha's xpander is the first electronic piece of music that i ever liked.
and i still like the whole album, even though it sounds out of date on some parts.

I didn't think Sasha ever released an album with Xpander on?!

It's like anything else. The proportion of quality to shit tracks leans towards the side of shit tracks.

Trance is really what introduced me to electronic music though. I like a lot of it. I've moved more towards house over the years though.