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sandbags wrote:

Homebelly wrote:Am i missing some thing?
Or is there a way to sequence control data already, if not, is it possible to add that?

You mean to send MIDI CC data along with the notes?

Right now there is no built-in support although, at a pinch, I could probably do it using the built-in scripting support. In principle it wouldn't be a hard thing to add.

Feel free to post something more detailed about what you had in mind and how you would see it working. If it's not too difficult I might try and squeeze something into 1.0.

Matt

Yup..
Thats exactly what i mean.
Even better yet, being able to send CC's independent of note would be very cool

Two things...

Posted this over on the logic pro help board and am surprised it didn't get more responses. Perhaps I posted in the wrong place.

2) This has already served as inspiration for two tracks, so... I like it. Perhaps it is my education in statistics, the stochastic nature of life and what not, but this is pretty much right up my alley.

Like a randomized harmonic table arpeggiator on steroids.

Homebelly wrote:

sandbags wrote:You mean to send MIDI CC data along with the notes?

Thats exactly what i mean.
Even better yet, being able to send CC's independent of note would be very cool

How would you see the latter working? Do you mean some kind of "controller" token that playheads would pass over? Or are you thinking of something else?

If you could add a little more about how you might see this working it would be helpful to me in formulating it as a feature.

Matt.

anti-banausic wrote:Posted this over on the logic pro help board and am surprised it didn't get more responses. Perhaps I posted in the wrong place.

Ah, found your post. Yes I think that's one of the quieter forum areas there I think. I only have time to scan the main Logic forum usually.

Still it was useful because the other poster there is the first dissenting voice I've heard. I'm hoping I might be able to learn something useful from them.

anti-banausic wrote:2) This has already served as inspiration for two tracks, so... I like it. Perhaps it is my education in statistics, the stochastic nature of life and what not, but this is pretty much right up my alley. Like a randomized harmonic table arpeggiator on steroids.

Glad you like it

I'm not sure where I got the idea to add LFO's to the parameters but it just seemed to make sense to me. I was inspired to add probabilistic control by looking at what Giles Bowkett was doing with Archaeopteryx.

Expect a lot more ability to control this stuff in the future!

matt

sandbags wrote:

Homebelly wrote:

sandbags wrote:You mean to send MIDI CC data along with the notes?

Thats exactly what i mean.
Even better yet, being able to send CC's independent of note would be very cool

How would you see the latter working? Do you mean some kind of "controller" token that playheads would pass over? Or are you thinking of something else?

If you could add a little more about how you might see this working it would be helpful to me in formulating it as a feature.

Matt.

I guess i'm thinking that you could assign a CC# to a layer, then each of the 127 midi "steps" in that layer could send out some variance of that controller data across time, and have it affect what ever parameter its assigned to on the synth being controlled by the sequencer in a rhythmic way not related to the rhythm being applied to the notes.

I'm way tired right now so i'm probably not making much sense
I guess the better analogy would be a CV step sequencer... maybe. ???

Homebelly wrote:

sandbags wrote:

Homebelly wrote: Thats exactly what i mean.
Even better yet, being able to send CC's independent of note would be very cool

How would you see the latter working? Do you mean some kind of "controller" token that playheads would pass over? Or are you thinking of something else?

I guess i'm thinking that you could assign a CC# to a layer, then each of the 127 midi "steps" in that layer could send out some variance of that controller data across time, and have it affect what ever parameter its assigned to on the synth being controlled by the sequencer in a rhythmic way not related to the rhythm being applied to the notes.

Okay that's a very interesting idea. So the option to have CC tracks running in parallel to the layers. Are you thinking some kind of step-sequencer system? Or something similar to the oscillators can already attach to parameters?

Homebelly wrote:I guess the better analogy would be a CV step sequencer... maybe. ???

I'm afraid I don't know enough about CV (pre-MIDI way of hooking things up yes?) to understand the comparison.

Matt.

Homebelly wrote:I guess i'm thinking that you could assign a CC# to a layer, then each of the 127 midi "steps" in that layer could send out some variance of that controller data across time, and have it affect what ever parameter its assigned to on the synth being controlled by the sequencer in a rhythmic way not related to the rhythm being applied to the notes.

I've added a feature request to my tracker for the 1.0 release (due Feb sometime).

Please feel free to elaborate more on how you think this might work and how you might use it.

Matt