os x 10.5.6 and akai MPD (new mpd32/mpk drivers up)

suspended childhood · Post by **suspended childhood** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:14 pm

dcease wrote:
suspended childhood wrote:can you roll teh os back to known good version to isolate the os from the problem?

if so and you still have the problem, at least you know its not the os
how the fuck do you do that? i wouldn't mind trying, to be helpful, but i have no clue how to do that, and it sounds dangerous, besides, it would have to be later, my room is a fucking mess, i am rearranging... i would hate to have to move, there is sooo much crap in there... eh, i'd better get back at it if i want to jam to-night stoopid internet!

better make a backup first.

lemme look into that for mac before i give you suggestions...i dont want to be responsible for you losing everything.

point being: if you had a good version working say 3 months ago and you recently did "software updates" which may have changed your os version, you should be able to uninstall that update.

in windows its easy, but im better on windows that i am on macs...ill get back to you.

theres also a restore feature in windows, that I have to see if/ how to do that for osx...

if you have a new mac you bought 2 days ago...youre probably out of luck if you are using the os version that came with your mac. you would probably have to do a reinstall with a different version....if thats the problem. unless of course you turned it on and just did the updates...then you should try to uninstall the update.

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:54 am

their is no rollback feature in osx so you would have to restore to a back up in order to roll back.as far as i've found the only way to roll back with out seeing an apple tech is if you've made backups using time machine, carbon copy or something like that.
i read that carbon copy works better then time machine for a full rebuilds.

as far as our new mbp i have an appointment with a tech on tuesday.
it should get resolved one way or the other
at worst i'll have to drop 60 bucks on a midi interface for my dk10 and my foot controller.
i dunno if i'd rather do that or go through a reinstall

on the bright side we jammed out tonight with the new machine oo man it so sweet
it never broke %20 cpu

edit..

by the way the web cam is cool
anyone wanna cyber?

suspended childhood · Post by **suspended childhood** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:39 am

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.h...6692#Downgrade

About "Downgrade" installations
You should not reinstall an earlier version of the same software over a later version. These "downgrade" installs may seem to work, but Apple does not test nor recommend downgrade installations in most cases. Some installers prevent downgrade installations. If you need to reinstall an earlier version of Mac OS X, erase your disk first or choose the erase option in the Mac OS X Installer. Be sure to reinstall any software updates after reinstalling the operating system.

didnt check the freebsd side...but thats probably the best way to go anyway. that way you know exactly what is on your system...since you would be the one putting it there.

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:21 pm

today i tested the setup with garage band and battery stand alone
it all worked!! grrrrrrr

so i then installed ableton 7.0.2 demo and ableton 6 le demo versions
but it did not work

we are running ableton 7.0.14

so i guess its time to include the abs on my adventures.

formatk · Post by **formatk** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:57 pm

I'm running live 7.0.14 on MBP OSX 10.5.6 with MPD 24. all works fine for me.

Blip the Kid · Post by **Blip the Kid** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:17 pm

just checked with my MPD32 and Macbook running 10.5.6 and im getting the same thing. ports 1 and 2 don't show up in Audio/Midi Setup. I guess I'll have to wait to upgrade my other machine.

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:55 pm

well i just returned from apple tech support.

not much came out of that meeting other than i was able to connect the mpd24 to another computer running 10.5.6 and it looked the same as mine.

so if you anyone uses the mpd's and need the extra midi ports
dont update your mac os.

i've emailed akai with all my new info and started shopping for a midi interface.

life goes on

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:36 pm

tested with bomes trial version
that works.. i can route my midi devices through bomes then into ableton
thats an $80 work around but i dont have to carry extra gear plus bome is pretty handy.

anyone now any freeware way i could do this?

formatk · Post by **formatk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:06 pm

ah sorry, just realised you're talking about the new MBP's.

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:49 pm

actually its a early 2008 MBP ... we got a referbished

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:51 pm

update

akai support recreated the issue and said the will be working on correcting it.

it is an issue with leopard 10.5.6 and 10.5.5 and the MPD24 and MPD32
from the feedback on this thread it seems to be working fine with 10.5.4 and earlier
i know for sure that it works with 10.4

the issue only effects port B and the physical midi interface
if you dont use that and don't plan to it will work fine.

edit:

o ya and it seems to only effect live because all ports function with garage band
and battery stand alone

formatk · Post by **formatk** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:53 pm

thanks for the update mate, cheers. k

dezai · Post by **dezai** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:53 am

I'm using 10.5.6, and get the same errors in the Audio/MIDI setup utility. My software (Cubase, Live, Battery standalone, Kontakt standalone) will display all ports correctly in their respective MIDI setups, but the MPD32 does not transmit any MIDI data through any port unless I unplug/replug the USB cable.

I plan on picking up an ac adapter and just using regular MIDI. Annoying!

chris_in_london · Post by **chris_in_london** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:15 am

bosonHavoc wrote:hey suspended childhood do you have osx 10.5.6?

is anyone using 10.5.6 and mpd24 or mpd32?

please let me know especially if it is working in full.
thing is even if it is working you may not realize that the extra midi ports are not working if you don't use them.

it's a know issue with 10.5.x and MPD32 - os x doesn't name the MPD32's ports properly, so ableton can't remeber the settings.

there *might* be a fix http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... ight=mpd32, although i haven't tried it yet

deejaybags · Post by **deejaybags** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:54 pm

im having the same problem with my mpd24 with a keyboard plugged into the external port. i tried deleting the files in the message above, without any luck.
the external port is testing ok in the audio/midi setup app, and i can see the input from the keyboard in the vyzex program as well.