Looper discussion

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:46 am

that's what I was thinking, if you could seperate the sounds out into separate clips then it wouldn't exactly be 'sound on sound' as they said

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:46 am

Track output can be routed post-FX in Live, should apply to the Looper device as well

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:47 am

Johnisfaster wrote:that's what I was thinking, if you could seperate the sounds out into separate clips then it wouldn't exactly be 'sound on sound' as they said

What are the green rectangles?

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:50 am

OvertoneZero wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:that's what I was thinking, if you could seperate the sounds out into separate clips then it wouldn't exactly be 'sound on sound' as they said
What are the green rectangles?

I was thinking the squares/rectangles were just showing you the scrolling of the loop for visuals. they are obviously larger so that you can see them at a distance as you might be while live looping.

OvertoneZero · Post by **OvertoneZero** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:09 am

yeah.. HMMM

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:22 am

Johnisfaster wrote:
OvertoneZero wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:that's what I was thinking, if you could seperate the sounds out into separate clips then it wouldn't exactly be 'sound on sound' as they said
What are the green rectangles?
I was thinking the squares/rectangles were just showing you the scrolling of the loop for visuals. they are obviously larger so that you can see them at a distance as you might be while live looping.

Bingo.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:26 am

Machinate wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:
OvertoneZero wrote: What are the green rectangles?
I was thinking the squares/rectangles were just showing you the scrolling of the loop for visuals. they are obviously larger so that you can see them at a distance as you might be while live looping.
Bingo.

I'm smart enough to know what a random square represents

naburo · Post by **naburo** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:17 am

amazing news

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:20 am

first-loop-sets-tempo will be an amzing feature for starting live impros with Live. I always saw being stuck into some preselected bpm as a major flaw of live.

Surreal · Post by **Surreal** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:23 pm

well, i am interested in clips because i would currently take clips in and out of the mix as i go.

so i could record 6 tracks and then drop out 3 and 5 only to bring 5 back in and solo 4 later.

effects on separate clips are the other reason..but i use dummy tracks too, so that isnt an issue.

i would love it if a group of tracks could be assigned to a looper. if i could sometimes trade unlimited loops for discreet recording location, i would be happy. (i am still fine with the looper as described, so long as i can get the loops into clips after a set at the very least.

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:32 pm

I don't really understand how the synching thing works, is it calculated from transients or something? So for instance if I played a one note drone and looped it how would ableton know what the tempo was?

Looks like a great device but it seems like there could be some shortcomings with it.

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:45 pm

bencodec wrote:yeah i can't say thanks enough for this. can't wait to try it out.

only requires 1 pedal well, hell what am i gonna do with the other 9 pedals on the FCB 1010

Change patches in Guitar Rig and control other elements of Live.

This is really sweet.

I'm sure you could route it out to another audio track to create clips, using your standard up and down scene and clip launch buttons to create more clips and then mainpulate via your Akai!

Yeah, massive thanks to the abes for this, it has made my day/week/month/year.

philipc · Post by **philipc** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:51 pm

bencodec wrote:yeah i can't say thanks enough for this. can't wait to try it out.

only requires 1 pedal well, hell what am i gonna do with the other 9 pedals on the FCB 1010

Although its set up for one switch it'd probably be a lot easier to use more still. There appears to be no Redo function but that can probably be added now with Max.

Edit: Are there even any reasonably priced one-switch foots-switches out there?

This four-switch one is relatively cheap but still a bit pricey considering you can get the vastly superior FCB1010 for only a little bit more.

http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop/flyp ... paign=base

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:08 pm

bencodec wrote: only requires 1 pedal well, hell what am i gonna do with the other 9 pedals on the FCB 1010

It only requires one pedal, but you can assign other pedals to the wee transport buttons too - if you fancy direct access to stop / overdub, etc. or also to control the delete and the double/halve length functions which are not tied to the "big button"

FCB is still the weapon of choice

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:17 pm

http://wetterberg.dk/uploads/looper_x_4.gif
- still needs nav. buttons to the right, but haven't got access to the protocol yet