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Hi,

As mentionned earlier in this thread (well investigated!):
- A warp marker that you create should always create a Transient as well. Then, the warp marker looks like the solid square plus the down pointing arrow, as one object.
- You can then delete a transient from a warp marker, and the warp marker looks like the square only. That is mostly helpfull for "artistic" warping, where you want to stretch material without protecting a transient. For example, stretching a booooom with 3 warp markers to created artifacts, but want to protect only the real transient at the beginning of the sample.

So, from this thread, I could identify two bugs at least, I'm not sure if they cover all of what you observed:

- The "reset transient" command deletes transient that belong to warp markers you manually created or moved. This one is filled.
- The Auto-warp, in some cases, creates warp markers just besides transients. I still have to investigate this one before filling it.

Please let me know if you observed other behaviours that leaded to warp markers without transients.

Kind regards,
Amaury

Amaury wrote: So, from this thread, I could identify two bugs at least, I'm not sure if they cover all of what you observed:

- The "reset transient" command deletes transient that belong to warp markers you manually created or moved. This one is filled.
- The Auto-warp, in some cases, creates warp markers just besides transients. I still have to investigate this one before filling it.

Please let me know if you observed other behaviours that leaded to warp markers without transients.

Kind regards,
Amaury

What is the "reset transient" doing wrong? I took this command as meaning it will reset all the transients to the transients set from the initial analysis, which it appears to do correctly.

If you add a warp marker then reset transients it removes the transient but leaves the warp marker in place. This behaviour is maybe questionable as maybe it should be deleting the warp marker as well - or maybe there should be a similar command to reset transient for warp markers (ie reset warp markers, which goes back to the initial analysis state).

As regards the auto warp placing markers near to transients, I've noticed this and thought it wasn't right but it seems to sound correct in use. When I've moved the nearby transients on top of the warp marker it sounds out of time more often than not. I thought it was just being really clever with the warp marker placement.

Amaury wrote:As mentionned earlier in this thread (well investigated!):
- A warp marker that you create should always create a Transient as well. Then, the warp marker looks like the solid square plus the down pointing arrow, as one object.
- You can then delete a transient from a warp marker, and the warp marker looks like the square only.

I think the manual could do with a bit of work to make this clear, especially the fact that a warp marker is now a square box. Might also be worth pointing out the change in the what's new section at the beginning of the manual, ie that a warp marker pre L8 was a square & triangle and that the same symbol now represents a warp and transient marker and that they are separate items that can exist without the other.