Post Your Fav Dated Machine that's Still Ahead of it's Time

inakiesarte · Post by **inakiesarte** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:57 pm

doc holiday wrote:

100% Agreed

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:07 pm

^^^ ohh, forgot about that one +1

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:18 pm

^^^ a truer truth could never be truthed.

but for those of us that continue to light candles the wax will continue to burn....

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:20 pm

+1 for the Mu-Tron Bi-Phase, the Audiodamage plug does not sound like it I'm afraid. It's a Vatrol Phaser, there's a DIY project from a French guy who reverse engineered it. I hope UA will model it, they would know how cuz they got the , erm know-how.

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:29 pm

john doe by choice wrote:good call on that Mu-Tron, those things are awesome

Truly. When I first got it I ran some reggae through it. The Bi-Phase transformed it into a classic Lee Scratch Perry Black Ark Studio swirling liquid production!

If you want to hear some serious Bi-Phase madness that highlights the square wave, check out the Lee Perry production 'Wolf Out Deh' by Lloyd & Devon, also the dub 'Shepherd Rod'. Sublime.

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:34 pm

djsynchro wrote:+1 for the Mu-Tron Bi-Phase, the Audiodamage plug does not sound like it I'm afraid. It's a Vatrol Phaser, there's a DIY project from a French guy who reverse engineered it. I hope UA will model it, they would know how cuz they got the , erm know-how.

I have a friend who works for UA, I've dropped him a line to ask that very question. I'll post back his reply. Cross your fingers!

Add a UA Bi-Phase to their Roland Space Echo & we're in serious Black Ark territory.

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:57 pm

Here's a clip from the documentary 'Roots, Rock, Reggae' filmed in Jamaica in 1977'.

Witness Lee Perry rocking out on his white Bi-Phase prototype in the Black Ark studio along with the Upsetters & The Heptones, Junior Murvin, & The Congos, who are all singing together

Highly UPSETTING!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9An7d1hM ... re=related

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:24 am

When I got this, it took me a step beyond in terms of what my guitar playing and vocals could sound like. It was incredibly expensive given what I was making at the time, I put it on layaway and was ultimately able to claim it.

In the 80's I was in a bar band that was one of these "sneak in a few originals" types of bands. There was a band that we played with, they were a Lynyrd Skynyrd tribute band, essentially (we were more metal-ish, Zeppelin and AC/DC covers) and they had many more bookings and gigs than us, and they were kind enough to let us open for them a few times.

They got a gig touring regionally to open for ... Krokus? something like that and they wanted me to loan them the space echo, hinting that it would good for my band if that happened. I couldn't do it, I thought I'd never see it again. My bandmembers weren't too happy, because it effectively burned a bridge.

But I've still got it

muthafunka · Post by **muthafunka** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:45 am

Too easy...

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:38 am

mikemc wrote:

When I got this, it took me a step beyond in terms of what my guitar playing and vocals could sound like. It was incredibly expensive given what I was making at the time, I put it on layaway and was ultimately able to claim it.

In the 80's I was in a bar band that was one of these "sneak in a few originals" types of bands. There was a band that we played with, they were a Lynyrd Skynyrd tribute band, essentially (we were more metal-ish, Zeppelin and AC/DC covers) and they had many more bookings and gigs than us, and they were kind enough to let us open for them a few times.

They got a gig touring regionally to open for ... Krokus? something like that and they wanted me to loan them the space echo, hinting that it would good for my band if that happened. I couldn't do it, I thought I'd never see it again. My bandmembers weren't too happy, because it effectively burned a bridge.

But I've still got it

A wise decision.

That's the next item I need to acquire in my quest. I have the Bi-Phase & a vintage spring reverb. All I need it a Space Echo. Some day...

mike_o · Post by **mike_o** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:03 am

muthafunka wrote:Too easy...

it's not even ass kissing, its really just true, so damn true

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:43 am

djsynchro wrote:+1 for the Mu-Tron Bi-Phase, I hope UA will model it, they would know how cuz they got the , erm know-how.

According to my pal at UA (& their website

) the Nigel guitar processing multi-effects plug-in does have a Bi-Phase emulation, along with the Small Stone and MXR series of phasers. Looks like it's available for free, but only for their UAD1, & not UAD2 card.

Kilroy · Post by **Kilroy** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:27 am

I have a 3-way tie...

If I had to choose one it would be the Oberheim.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:16 am

Kilroy wrote: If I had to choose one it would be the Oberheim.

good choice. I've got an Xpander and it's really a hard choice between it and the Memorymoog. Thing about the Memorymoog is it was plagued with tuning issues, then Moog folded before any official resolution. So the only decnt solution is a Lintronics retrofit, but unless you live in Germany, it's prohibitively expensive.
So the thing has unique routings and really nothing quite sounds like 18 oscillators going through a moog filter, but it doesn't make the Classic cute.

In general though I would say the very concept of poly analogs which by the time they were going strong were annexed by the DX7.

Jupiter 6 and 8 and Super Jupiter,
ObX series Matrix 12 and Xpander,
Memorymoog, Prophet 5, Korg Poly Six etc.

these all sound wonderful to me, and aren't fully realized in emulation.