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On a related note:

Anyone know where I could get the free version of ARTILLERY 2?

Pip, is your method better than getting the Artillery 2 VST?

Dean.

Sadly, using a short loop to stutter in Arrangement View means you won't be able to simultaneously record into Arrangement View. You'll end up with a 1-Bar long recording that keeps getting written over itself. You can add an extra Audio Track, route your audio to that, and then record into clips in Session View. You can then drag these clips into Arrangement View afterward.

Personally, I prefer to stutter using Live's Beat Repeat device. I know many people complain that since it's only an audio effect, your clips keep advancing, and your tracks will essentially "run away" from you. It's not very useful when you're trying to make short songs last longer

Scrubbing the waveform in its Sample Display and assigning Global Quantize to a MIDI controller is another great option, but its not always an elegant solution. It sometimes takes focus away from more important views, and you run a high risk of accidentally clicking on something wrong during a live set. Besides, alot of people don't like using their mouse when playing live. (They say it looks like you're checking your email. ... Yes, sometimes I AM checking my email during a DJ set. But I'm using my cell phone to do it.)

I've never tried the Artillery VST, but there seems to be a free trial available. I doubt it's going to be much more effective than Beat Repeat. You're still going to run into the problem of your tracks running out; VST's do NOT affect Live's timeline or clip positions.

You can also break your single clip into multiple clips, and you should be able to do some nifty tricks with Follow Actions and Legato Mode to help stutter and extend your songs. I understand this takes a fair amount of preparation ahead of time, but it can be a very powerful solution.

When I play Other People's Music (straight DJ-ing) I usually rock out with Native Instruments Traktor. It costs about the same as the Artillery Plugin. It's got some great beat jumping and looping options, plus the Beatmasher effect. Perfect for the stutter addict!

The absolute King of Stutter, even more than Fatboy Slim, would be BT. BT's software company Sonik Architects supposedly was coming out with Stutter Edit (it was used and mentioned in the liner notes of This Binary Universe) but so far nothing has materialized despite a scheduled release date of 2007, and it's just vaporware at this point.

Perhaps Max For Live will solve all our problems in the future. ...

[Edit; Hey, this is my 100th post. Do I win a prize?]

Thanks for the info Pip.

If I wanted to route the output to another audio clip in Sessio View, do I need to click the global record button, or just the Audio clip's record button?

Dean.

Is it possible to use a VST in Sampler and achieve a recording of the stutter effects that way?

Pip, I tried your way with the blank loop and it does work, but you end up with a clip in Session view that Live has placed warp markers on.

Dean.

BT said his stutter edit and beat freak software will be out this year and included with a new album that contains a dvd of the stems for the new album. Will require iLok Key and will be around $400 I think.

b.

the free version of artillery comes with Computer Music magazine published in the UK. Not easy to find in the US but not hard at all.

I'd recomend it. Press a button and it stutters.

pip wrote:Go into session view, and turn on Loop mode. Make a blank loop one bar long, and then place a locator at the beginning of it. Map the locator to a key on your keyboard/midi controller. Set your global quantize amount to whatever you want to be able to stutter at, and then you can stutter by repeatedly mashing your mapped key. Since you're in a short loop, you are passing this locator every 4 beats, which means you can easily stutter at any point in the song. Add a few other locators within this loop and you can do some mad breakdowns, etc.

While I was working this out tonight, I kept getting the the orange "D" (disk warning) unless I ran the clip from RAM. Your results may vary.

Advanced: Place a locator outside the loop (for example, at the 4th bar) and throw a Beat Repeat* on your track. When you want to stutter your track, turn on your Beat Repeat and jump to this outside locator. When you're done stuttering and wrecking shit, jump back to your 1st locator, turn off your Beat Repeat, and you'll pick up right where you left off!

* Have the Beat Repeat in Insert Mode with Gate and Interval at the same value. Adjust grid to desired stutter length. Map "Repeat" button to a key/controller so you can lock the part of the sample you want to stutter.

Hope I explained this properly!

-- PiP

Really interesting use of locator midi mappings.