Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

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intellijel
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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by intellijel » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:49 am

I found this:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ZEDR16


Allen & Heath Zed R16


It is not exactly what I want and it is expensive but it is a step in the right direction. It is a full analog mixer (with apparently good preamps) and has a bunch of midi controls on it. Also the main faders can also be switched to being midi faders. on top of this it is a reasonaly high quality firewire interface with up to 28i/o

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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by oblique strategies » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:54 am

Good find. If all the controls were MIDI mappable then we'd have a winner that can serve double duty!
:)


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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by Green Lemon » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:57 am

intellijel wrote:even more promising:

http://hackaday.com/2008/08/22/syncmast ... ontroller/
Wow, I like that.
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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by snakedogman » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:37 am

oblique strategies wrote:Good find. If all the controls were MIDI mappable then we'd have a winner that can serve double duty!
:)
not possible sadly. Only the faders:
ZED-R16 is equipped with a host of MIDI control options. As well as the 4 dedicated MIDI faders, 12 rotary controllers, 12 switches, and 5 dedicated transport switches, all channel faders can also be switched to become MIDI faders.

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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by oblique strategies » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:48 am

Green Lemon wrote:
intellijel wrote:even more promising:

http://hackaday.com/2008/08/22/syncmast ... ontroller/
Wow, I like that.
Me too :wink:

JAMM
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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by JAMM » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:06 pm

mayby you better can buy 1 or 2 firewire audio interfaces with both 8 outs and buy a analog audio mixer.
route all the channels to seperate outs....there you go.

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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by JAMM » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:12 pm

The way i play live is to use 3 different controllers.
One for the faders, one for the mutes and one for the effects etc...

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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by selthym » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:16 pm

2 x Novation Remote Zero's will give you 16 channels with a fader, 2 rotaries + 5 buttons (mutes, solo etc) per channel. Or 2 BCR2000's plus a couple of nano controls. Mount them all into 1 massive easy to carry box and you will get something like you are after.

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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by cmreal04 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:45 pm

madhattared wrote:wow that hades is a beautiful piece of kit, that whole thing is midi?
I have never seen it before.
Me neither and I'm really surprised it's never been mentioned before,look like a great option

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intellijel
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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by intellijel » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:16 pm

people keep posting multi $k solutions which defeats the point. For those kinds of money I could have an engineer build a custom midi controller to my specs using midibox platform.


Another new product that looks ok (but only six channels) is the Vestax VCM600

http://www.vestax.com/v/info/newsevent/detail.php?id=42

It's $900 though and I think that is double what it should be sold for..

Maybe two of these, a monome and faderfox or two would be a good combo but then you are in stupid money land again.

I really want someone like Akai/Korg/Vestax to do this since they have the means to get cost down in bulk, manufacture their own custom UI elements etc. If I do this on my own it will cost me a lot of money for the prototype.

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Re: Midi controller that emulates a large analog mixer?

Post by Green Lemon » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:29 pm

Dude- APC40 + BCR 2000 and you're at 500 bucks. Come on, its not that bad.
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