Define 'organic'

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D K
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Re: Define 'organic'

Post by D K » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:53 pm

'bullshit'?

ethios4
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Re: Define 'organic'

Post by ethios4 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:21 pm

Gab wrote:
ethios4 wrote:So, to me, 'organic' relates to non-synthesized instruments like hand drums, flutes, guitars, etc.
Interesting. To me, the organic constituent of a track lies more in the fluidity of the articulation between the different parts of the track, bewteen layers inside the same part and inside the layers.

So, organic as flow and motion, as opposed to mechanical - note that the mechanical and the organic are not mutually exclusive and that one can set off the other.
I can see this sense of the word 'organic' too. In this regard, Live 8 is much more 'organic' than previous versions with the Groove pool. I bet a lot of that sound comes from the limitations of using hardware (MIDI timing, analog mixer coloration, manual tweaking of synth controls, etc). Psytrance today is much more mouse-click driven than 10 years ago.

+1 to Minilogue. Animals is a great album!

If you want some really crazy psytrance, check out the new Psykovsky...like psytrance on drugs! ;)

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Re: Define 'organic'

Post by LoopStationZebra » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:04 pm

Organic?

Easy.

Jon Hassell live. omfg. ORGANIC! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCWnZ0qILUA
I came for the :lol:
But stayed for the :x

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Re: Define 'organic'

Post by Nick the Zombie » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:54 pm

I've always associated this term with subtle movement and evolution in sounds, as some others have said. It might also entail intentionally letting some hiss and room noise into instrument recordings; perhaps allowing a little bit of masking between elements in a mix to keep things sounding "live" rather than having a sparkling mix where everything has its specific place in the frequency spectrum with very little overlap. I like both mixing techniques, but I would definitely call one more "organic" than the other. This is all my arbitrary line of thought, though. Interesting thread.

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Re: Define 'organic'

Post by ze2be » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:07 am

LoopStationZebra wrote:Organic?

Easy.

Jon Hassell live. omfg. ORGANIC! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCWnZ0qILUA
Nice! I love impro jazz. Do you know Supersilent? Reminds me of this.. anyway, thanks for the tip!

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