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Tone Deft wrote:that's good, because you should judge people by how they look.

Hardtoe wrote:give people a break (especially nerds - they need your love)....

You're both right (sarcasm noted Tone Deft) I shouldn't be so mean... I've had my fashion moments.

I didn't dig too deep (first page) into the site. I was having multiple flash backs.


Honestly I have friends that dress way "worse" but I know them so I think its alright. Still, its not like thats the right attitude.

Even having said all that, when you go out of your way to stick out you are TRYING to call attention to yourself and putting a bullseye on yourself in the process - I'm pretty sure most of them want attention (probably just not negative attention) I'm also pretty damn sure they know they are gonna get some looks before they even left the house.

After visiting NY several times last year, I think I can safely say that the entire city needs a vist to the ER for hipster overdose. Jesus christ its bad

Tone Deft wrote:'shit on the fly'?

play on words... on the fly = on the move.

Looking back though I'm thinking that is kinda harsh huh?

Fuck it, its a joke just like some of those outfits

I see plenty of hipsters I'd love to hit with a bat, I hear ya. no bad vibes on Fridays!! we'll flame each other on Monday, asshole.

this guy sees a hipster walking down the street and yells out 'hey hipster!' and then they laugh because he turned around. fail. I gotta try that sometime.

around here they're all into the Bowie era white trash fixed wheeled bike thing. whatever, he also have goths, Insane Clown Posse looking guys, hippies, wannabe hippies, yuppies, hip hoppers, leather daddies, butches, femmes, ravers, and cowboys. love this place, time for sushi.

Word

aisling wrote:people really take themselves quite seriously with their hip look combined with spiritual materialism (religion of the moment)

Fucking oxymoron in the shape of a figure 8 on its side huh?

Jesus and Buddha wore sandals and next to nothing clothing wise... Yet pastors drive Porches and Mercedes???

Maybe they were really really nice sandals.

I just don't understand the sub-culture hating.

I have no problem at all with people who 'dress weird' or 'want to get noticed'. In fact hooray for them, because although it's easy to label them as a gang of stereotype dull posers - for fucks sake this forum is filled with musicians and DJs. The epitome of self-loving converstaion killing tedious me me me culture.

Once, long ago, I was sat in a bar with my new girl of the time, she was a nurse. She had no idea what I did for a living. Anyway a bunch of musos came in and of course I knew them, I was in a band with some of them even. She said :" look at those wankers, you can tell they're in a band, because they think they are fucking IT, looking round the bar to see who's noticed them. God I hate musicians". And she was totally right, the subtle behavior that permeates most performers in public is one of checking the room, making deals, telling tall tales, self-agrandizement.

You see, just to be a musician that steps outside the bedroom you must be a self-involved egotist, you must think that your genre, your interpretation, your very personality is simply fascinating. Even the introverted musicians are self-involved.

So really, anyone in the 'music biz' who wants to castigate people who dress unusually for wanting to draw attention to themselves really needs to remember all those posters you printed out with your stupid made-up name on, and the whole thing where you stand on a raised platform in front of people and make them look at you in the hope they will like you.

remember that minor detail?

H20nly wrote:I think my eyes are burning now...

All of those people were reason #1 why I quit going to raves circa 1995.

except they would have all been 5-8 years old back then!

what kind of raves where you going to!!

Angstrom wrote:You see, just to be a musician that steps outside the bedroom you must be a self-involved egotist, you must think that your genre, your interpretation, your very personality is simply fascinating. Even the introverted musicians are self-involved.

No shit huh?

otnooishphoo wrote:what kind of raves where you going to

LOL... I guess I didn't mean those exact people.
The kind in the Houston underground. I was there for the music though (oh and to purchase large quantities of LSD)... the "eye candy" got old quick - seriously.

Angstrom wrote:I like hipsters, if that's what these people are.
here I see only guys with cropped hair and shell suits, baseball caps and a vacant stare.

As a guy with cropped hair, a baseball cap, and a vacant stare, I can say that looking at the photos of the hipsters wonder makes me wonder if they are more confused than I am?


Maybe with a boot full of weapons I will be able to sort it out..

OvertoneZero wrote:

Angstrom wrote:I like hipsters, if that's what these people are.
here I see only guys with cropped hair and shell suits, baseball caps and a vacant stare.

As a guy with cropped hair, a baseball cap, and a vacant stare, I can say that looking at the photos of the hipsters wonder makes me wonder if they are more confused than I am?
Maybe with a boot full of weapons I will be able to sort it out..

no, I can tell you from looking out of my window that with your boot full of weapons you will be able to

1: use a samurai sword to chop the arm off the wrong guy
2: have his friends torch your house
3: drive around looking menacing in your car until you can shoot a guy who was once seen drinking with the original guy who was the wrong guy
4: get stabbed by the brother of the original guy you were actually looking for
5: sell some cocaine
6: kill a student because they look 'funny'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... emned.html

H20nly wrote: The kind in the Houston underground. I was there for the music though (oh and to purchase large quantities of LSD)... the "eye candy" got old quick - seriously.

gosh I miss my lsd days.......I have kids now and don't know how I'd handle all that strychnine and speed they lace the shit with.....Has there even been pure lsd since the 80's (when the dea took down some major labs left over from the 60's)? munched a couple caps a few years ago, that was fun.......but like Ram Dass stated after doing all that acid with Leary.... "at some point once you experience the divine and the sacred through the psychedelic experience, the only real way to evolve that state of being is to find non intoxicating methods of maintaing that awareness....." (a paraphrase)

all them peoples are fine. The dickhead with the site is the sad one.

Angstrom wrote:I just don't understand the sub-culture hating.

I have no problem at all with people who 'dress weird' or 'want to get noticed'. In fact hooray for them, because although it's easy to label them as a gang of stereotype dull posers - for fucks sake this forum is filled with musicians and DJs. The epitome of self-loving converstaion killing tedious me me me culture.

Once, long ago, I was sat in a bar with my new girl of the time, she was a nurse. She had no idea what I did for a living. Anyway a bunch of musos came in and of course I knew them, I was in a band with some of them even. She said :" look at those wankers, you can tell they're in a band, because they think they are fucking IT, looking round the bar to see who's noticed them. God I hate musicians". And she was totally right, the subtle behavior that permeates most performers in public is one of checking the room, making deals, telling tall tales, self-agrandizement.

You see, just to be a musician that steps outside the bedroom you must be a self-involved egotist, you must think that your genre, your interpretation, your very personality is simply fascinating. Even the introverted musicians are self-involved.

So really, anyone in the 'music biz' who wants to castigate people who dress unusually for wanting to draw attention to themselves really needs to remember all those posters you printed out with your stupid made-up name on, and the whole thing where you stand on a raised platform in front of people and make them look at you in the hope they will like you.

remember that minor detail?

I think to be fair and clarify, there are authentic people who just are hip, iconoclastic, move to a different beat.....Have had many unique experiences that are expressed through their style.
Those types are purely inspiring and a breath of fresh air. No judgement upon them.....

Then there are the "posers"...those talk the talk......dress the dress....but have no authenticity, originality, or personality beyond what the pop culture they are regurgitating is..... while ultimately every time we point the finger and judge, there are three pointing back at us (so it is best to live and let live), I can't help but feel a sense of "despair and disillusionment" regarding the dilution of originality.

That probably makes no sense...... thanks for at least reading my rhetoric.

contakt321 wrote:love that site

I live in NY - this site is what I see in real life every direction I turn.

+1

and i do prefer this to Angstrom's "guys with cropped hair and shell suits, baseball caps and a vacant stare."

i find it awfully entertaining to see people obviously suffer for their fashion (sunglasses in a dark club, pants below ass, pants in ass, spikey pogo heels, a hairstyle that took hours, etc.)