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where are you located, there are tons on craigslist thanks to ableton, i remember when the 2XL was such a prize but they are dropping like flies now that people are hip to what the 1000s can do and ableton, I think it's time for my current favorite mpc clip once again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7i1Ph1BeE

see what I like about the 2xl is the substancial feel, when you use that as a controller for live it won't feel like working on the computer at all. and of course as you can see it's quite good enough to work with on it's own

My Toyota Camry is all I ever wanted out of a BMW. Not that I've ever driven one. They both have tires and an engine.

beats me wrote:My Toyota Camry is all I ever wanted out of a BMW. Not that I've ever driven one. They both have tires and an engine.

I'd rather be inside an toyota that sounded like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCxfRdHGhwE

than a bmw that sounded like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-mS9ox-jOo

It's hard to put into words the difference between using an MPC vs Live as a sequencer. The best analogy I can give is playing a video game on the PC vs a console. Live is the PC and the MPC is the console. Make sense? Personally, I prefer sequencing in Live for Trance and sequencing on the MPC for Hip Hop. I always prefer arranging, mixing, and mastering in Live.

Peace \/
chisel316

drumrak wrote:

you're a cheerful chump aren't ya?
whats with the negtive vibes cos peeps like mpc's?

so who's going to start another Mac vs. PC thread? haven't seen one of those in a while.

nots since they became the same thing really guess they're all just pcs now.

@chisel: that was a great analogy I never thought of it like that.

drumrak wrote:if your being serious about owning a bunch of MPCs thats the most retarded thing ever

Chisel wrote:

drumrak wrote:if your being serious about owning a bunch of MPCs thats the most retarded thing ever

i saw the dr pepper commercial and liked what the dj was spinning before he put the can on the turntable

+1 @ chisel


I was both excited and a bit afraid when I purchased Live8.

Now I'm whole happy with it.
Once I understood what caused bugs, it was good [using a lot of third-party vsts so...]
Be just aware when you edit your audio clips, some complex pro hard warped would need some rendering to audio or consilation to avoid CPU peaks in some cases.

Silly thing is the lil touch that keeps me glued [not sticked_ the word is not powerful enough to express my feeling ... lol] on live 8 is the colours that we can now add to tracks and macro knobs of the racks.

So cool when you prepare your live set>> colours make the thing so obvious at the first sight when you're on stage.

the new pitch mode on the pingpong delay is just awesome...
You can now emulate some scratching effect or _ and that's my love about it_ you can just use it as a good old "hardware" delay rack.
I own one vestafire dig-411 digital delay, and was impressed when I made first steps on the pingpong with pitch mode_
Now it's like the vestafire within the computer_ the only thing which is missing is two knobs for modulation with speed and depth.
Maybe it would be possible with max4live.

I own an akai mpd32, got a friend who own the padkontrol, he's so happy with it.
I got a keyboard and would not like not to have it, but the pads are just what was missing to me for live.

I'm a pc user and really considering buying a mac in a year and a half.
The day I'll have a mac, I would not destroy my pc and stop from working with it.

mac vs pc is like the neverending story in electronics
I would quote a friend here :

The only matter with my macbook was a harddrive crash, easily fixed and as long as your work is settled on an external HD, this causes no major issue. mac is rock solid

Hermanus wrote: mac vs pc is like the neverending story in electronics

It's a neverending story here and it's analogous to the ridiculous hardware vs. software debate, which we are seeing again, for the 32405982093487th time, in this thread.

If a guy wants to have 10 mpc's in his studio, so be it. If another guy wants to have 10000 plugins, out of which he'll probably use 10, at most, so be it. Some people like the feeling of dedicated hardware, others prefer software. Some will prefer to record and sequence into Macs, others into PC's. Some will use Live, others will use Logic, others will use Cubase, others will use Sonar, etc. etc. etc.

in the end, WGAF.

aqua_tek wrote:

Hermanus wrote: mac vs pc is like the neverending story in electronics

It's a neverending story here and it's analogous to the ridiculous hardware vs. software debate, which we are seeing again, for the 32405982093487th time, in this thread.

If a guy wants to have 10 mpc's in his studio, so be it. If another guy wants to have 10000 plugins, out of which he'll probably use 10, at most, so be it. Some people like the feeling of dedicated hardware, others prefer software. Some will prefer to record and sequence into Macs, others into PC's. Some will use Live, others will use Logic, others will use Cubase, others will use Sonar, etc. etc. etc.

in the end, WGAF.

honestly, the difference is disappearing between everything in almost every case, macs and pcs now have the same guts basically, the modern sampler only needs a bigger screen and a browser and its a laptop, and laptops just need velocity sensitive keys and sturdier casings to be samplers

15 years ago, these arguments were valid, there were massive differences between everything, but now it all comes down to intangibles, things like "feel" now are the deciding factor for what to use, it took me years to get used to using a computer for music production.

i think what my point is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmxT21uFRwM