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I love jazz too. But my exposure is limited- its not like you can just tune this stuff in on the local radio.

So, I know about some of these artists, but others I have heard the name but not the music. So your lists are like a great starting point for a jazz listening spree.

I'm gonna hop up on MuiscMatch radio and make a new radio station with some great JAZZ.

I can hear Weather Report now...

...oh and i would borrow everybody elses' records
they're all great imo
( except for the laswell remixes- i much prefer teo macero's original
productions)

yeh, panthalassa is not what i'd call jazz, but there were some good remixes, i'm thinking of Rated-X, i don't remember who did it.

speakin bout that, i'd add "on the corner" by miles to my list. and all his stuff from the seventies (the live stuff... brilliant... dark magus, pangaea...).
ah, and sun ra's stuff as well...

and steve coleman and monk and pfff... the list is too long...
and bugge wesseltoft as well. he's done some really good things IMO.

Some jazzy tunes I like -

The Best of Black Jazz Records Compilation 1971-1976 (Every track is amazing)

Pat Metheny - Are you going with me? (In tune but out of tune?)

Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage

Sun Palace - Rude Movements (Jazzy Disco Electro type thingy)

So many good tunes in the world!

First and foremost, Kind Of Blue. Then, Someday My Prince Will Come

Metheny - As Wichita Falls So Wichita Falls

Nels CLine Trio - Chest

Charlie Haden - & Quartet West, Live in Angel City

FCS North- S/T

Jaco Pastorius - S/T

Stanley Clarke - S/T

Tortoise - Live 1999

Marc Ribot - w/Los Cubanos Postizos

Masada - Live in Taipei

Miles - In a Silent Way

teo macero is one of the great "electronica" producers
up there with king tubby and eno in my book for godfather status

listen to the records he produced for miles closely
edits, looping, ill-ass effects...
on big fun there are tracks where it sounds like 2 drumers playing together
its teo's switcher box- some kind of custom panner he had made

his ear for how electonic and acoustic textures work together is unmatched
in my book

brad mehldua - art of the trio volume 3, songs.

this is my fave jazz record, although I'm no expert. I really like the piano phrasing and I'm totally in love with the drums. Also, not sure if this counts as jass, but Serge Gainsborg, histoire melody nelson.

sunrarara wrote:Anyone using live 4 to play jazz? I think the improvisational nature of live would really lend itself to this music. I've been using live apply realtime effects to my sax for a while now and think it might be cool to start using live in a group improv situation. Anyone in the London area doing this sort of thing already?

For example, the Blue series albums on thirsty ear (SPRING HEEL JACK, DJ SPOOKY, EL-P) have already paved the way for electronics in modern jazz.

Also listning to:

Art ensemble of chicago - live in paris
Sun Ra - Disco 3000
Brotzman - Nipples
Steve Reid - rhythmatism
Albert Ayler - the last album

hey, i'm with you on this one. finaly, my kind of jazz. i was a bit surprise to see that many of you are into fusion. we can start a separate topic on this, but i really think that fusion sucks and people who are listening to it don't dig jazz. no offence.

i'm doing jazz music on Live. we played at this year's Transmediale festival. two laptops and the double bass. i think that Live is really awesome for (not only Improve) Jazz.

glad someone posted this topic

oh yeah:

William Parker
David S. Ware
Coltrane (of course)
Hamid Drake
Chicago Underground Trio
...

i really think that fusion sucks and people who are listening to it don't dig jazz. no offence

well, that depends on what you call fusion. if weather report, pastorius or 'in a silent way' are fusion, then i don't agree with you (and i try not to get offended)...

i mean, it's got all the ingredients of jazz: improvisation, groove, and most of all, soul. what do you want more? a double bass and a swinging ride? that's a bit as if all that is called electronic music had to be detroit techno....
though, i agree that it's not in 'fusion' that the best pieces of jazz can be found.
but i think you are a bit extreme.

anyway, how do use Live in a jazz context?
recording loop on the fly, or actually playing your computer?
with pre-recorded loops? VSTis?
i'm pretty curious.

'kind of blue' or 'Ascenseur...'


can't really choose between those. but in general: jazz is great. I love people who can really play from the heart instead of 'brain music'!

peeddrroo wrote:

anyway, how do use Live in a jazz context?
recording loop on the fly, or actually playing your computer?
with pre-recorded loops? VSTis?
i'm pretty curious.

we use prerecorded loops (drums, piano loops...) and samples that are triggered (sax solos, cimbals...). we are messing them up with all sorts of VSTs (granular stuff, suppatrigga...). double bass player is doing the rest

we have laptops and Ozone/Oxygen keyboards.

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Well these days i ain't got time for twelve solos when i put on a record, so that excludes alot of bebop and free jazz which is otherwise amazing.

And bitches brew and jazz-funk (or sophista-funk as i once heard) well that's the bomb but i don't think it's quite aged so well...

So, for me jazz just gotta be short and sweet

Thelonious "sphere" monk - epistrophy etc...
Betty Carter - my favorite things...
Ahmad Jamal at the pershing...
Jimmy Scott...
Sun ra - rocket number 9...

Herbie of course listed the Apple II as part of his gear on his albums in the early 80's - but i've no idea how he was using it - anybody know?

Sorry wasn't logged

(and no i'm not a former columnist)

WebSite! wrote: we use prerecorded loops (drums, piano loops...) and samples that are triggered (sax solos, cimbals...). we are messing them up with all sorts of VSTs (granular stuff, suppatrigga...). double bass player is doing the rest

well, that's interesting...
i really wonder if i would consider it as jazz, you know, if i just saw you at a festival without knowing you...
the thing is that i don't have an idea how it sounds...

anyway, i'm surprised you don't dig jazz from the 70s (fusion), because there could be some things in common with your music.