Drum Rack confusion

[Tarekith]

Great, at least I know I'm not missing something obvious here. Hopefully someone from Ableton can pipe in here and maybe shed some light on this.

[longjohns]

bump

are we idiots or is something funky with this drum rack

[Jekblad]

aight, def getting buggy behavior here, mostly in the GUI. Things looks all messed up when i change things.

The problem seems to be in the midi path since the instrument itself IS capable of making sound. It's just the midi note that stops for some reason.

The choke groups were set for the two instruments in question, so i thought the workaround might be setting both chains to ALL, and using the second chains as choke groups but it doesn't work. Hence where we are i suppose.

every time i create a new drum rack this whole problem continues. not good!

i don't understand how the factory presets are created then, since all the choke groups occur on a second level

[Tarekith]

There is something here we are not seeing, I agree.

[Jekblad]

As in like bug or design flaw.
If it is user error the design flaw is in three able minded guys failing at figuring out a simple task.

[Jekblad]

heyo!

the problem is in the first rack. You have to set the 'Play' note to the same thing as the receive note because the NEXT drum rack is set only to receive THAT note.

Choke groups work just fine now that the rack holding the actual instrument is receiving midi.

i"m in a hurry hope this made sense!

[Jekblad]

option 1 set the second rack to receive "all" and use the choke group in the first rack


option 2 (as previously posted) in the first rack send the actual note out that the second rack needs. Use the choke in the second rack.

Either option requires some REALLY lame cliking about. Drag and drop, HELLO!?!?!

[longjohns]

none of that works for me to get a sound out of those chains.

if I make new chains, they sound. If I drag new sounds into the existing chains, no sound.

only sound I get in that rack is the kick

[Jekblad]

you dont get any sound eh? tarekith what happens for you?

[Tarekith]

Nada, nothing, zilch.

[Jekblad]

wtf.

this means we ARE all crazy.

[longjohns]

jekblad, if you get sound then maybe this is a windows only thing? tarekith = windows??

[Tarekith]

Tarekith = OSX.

[Jekblad]

ah geez

how far does the midi get thru the chain for u guys? All the way to the simpler?

[Tarekith]

I don't see any indication of it getting that far, once it leaves the main drum rack chain's output, no idea what happens. I give up at this point, if it's this complicated I don't even want to bother with drum racks for this anyway, too time comsuming changing all the chains' midi in and out for my needs. Thanks for the help guys, maybe Ableton can shed some light on this.