Does MF Doom Clear his Samples?

[H20nly]

nice story but that has nothing to do with madlib

does Madlib clear his samples?

no.
he doesn't. he doesn't make a lot of money and he has made comments saying companies wanted to sue him "like he was Jay-Z or something"

DOOM, not madlib.

[starving student]

thanks for the input flux

i think madlib makes more than people let on, dudes like that have a real following in the majority of their fans and he's been at it a while, his shows are always overly sold out, anyway what i'm saying is that he's got the type of fans that will support his product to a large degree.

[iflux]

"what does anything you just wrote have to do with the topic exactly?"

samples

[hurlingdervish]

nice story but that has nothing to do with madlib

does Madlib clear his samples?

no.
he doesn't. he doesn't make a lot of money and he has made comments saying companies wanted to sue him "like he was Jay-Z or something"

DOOM, not madlib.

woops

i thought madlib supplied doom with all his beats oh well.

i doubt mf doom clears them.

no one has money for that shit, especially not underground guys

[iflux]

I think sfx production for games and samples in music production are two different areas legally. So, I can see why dude said that about the topic relation. I was just sharing an experience I had which may correlate a bit legally. Just sharing an experience I had. I agree with clearing the samples costing a lot of money. There is a fine line between making something yourself and getting credit for it opposed to whoring around someone else's work. I think sampling is an interesting subject as I don't know much about it past what the license say on sample cd's.

I seen an interesting post here or at btmusic.com where this spanish duo(i think spanish or brazilian) ripped the bitch out of some of BT's work. I am not talking about biting some riffage or ideas. Im talking literally taking the shit off the cd. And I am pretty sure it was not any of the samples provided for any of the remixing contest either. Straight up ripping. They even had a label with a small amount of success. You would think the label would have caught that. Wish I had a link to that, it was juicy and interesting. Last i heard BT's lawyers were going after his ass so I doubt the tracks are around anyways. Now, a side from Doom which I am not knockin, im a fan. But THAT... was bullshit. Blatant ripping off of a huge well known artist. Someone needed to assist that duo with a face palm

[hurlingdervish]

ripping whole songs is fucked

i lost major respect for daft punk when i heard the samples...its all about image

i don't buy for a minute the "as long as it sounds good" argument...thats a dangerous mentality for music...

[starving student]

dervish why don't you drop some of them good samples on us that you've got

[magestro]

Sorry for jacking, but in this context i am interested if anybody knows a case,

where a rapper sued a beat maker for ripping his acapella?

is there something like a Code of behauviour in the Hip Hop oriented segment?

Back O.T.:
I am with H20nly, i tend to think only obvious samples get cleared and mos def not those hidden/twisted ones. Have`nt heard much of DOOM since the two Albums following the Fondleèm Stuff, but i think he is mainly using Samples of lesser known artist.

And another Point, He is producing most Tracks on his own, i did read a interview with him not long ago.

[siliconarc]

is there something like a Code of behauviour in the Hip Hop oriented segment?

lol!

[H20nly]

dup. post

[H20nly]

is there something like a Code of behauviour in the Hip Hop oriented segment?

actually yeah... when it comes to lyrics its different... thats biting and thats a no no. Some beat makers are all about sharing/sampling beats especially old school cats like Premier... but using a whole acapella without permission is as bad using a whole beat IMO. I mean do you think Whitney Houston or some other former or current diva thinks its okay to steal a few lines? Snort a few maybe, but steal from her songs... nope. My point is a female or even male vocalist with their 40 word long song would be pissed why should a rapper with three times the lyrical content be any less pissed if somebody jacked their lyrics?

The short answer is that in hip hop when it comes to lyrics you write your own. The code is in the songs but you have to listen for it. People that don't follow the code may get sued or (sometimes worse) they get the wrong artist attacking them in their songs. I don't like 50 cent much anyway, but he might as well have put a gun to his head fucking with NAS. His musical momentum has slowed down a bit... not selling records is as bad as paying settlement money... if not worse.

[ollyb303]

Am I the only person who doesn't know who MF Doom is?

[contakt321]

actually yeah... when it comes to lyrics its different... thats biting and thats a no no. Some beat makers are all about sharing/sampling beats especially old school cats like Premier... but using a whole acapella without permission is as bad using a whole beat IMO. I mean do you think Whitney Houston or some other former or current diva thinks its okay to steal a few lines? Snort a few maybe, but steal from her songs... nope. My point is a female or even male vocalist with their 40 word long song would be pissed why should a rapper with three times the lyrical content be any less pissed if somebody jacked their lyrics?

The short answer is that in hip hop when it comes to lyrics you write your own. The code is in the songs but you have to listen for it. People that don't follow the code may get sued or (sometimes worse) they get the wrong artist attacking them in their songs. I don't like 50 cent much anyway, but he might as well have put a gun to his head fucking with NAS. His musical momentum has slowed down a bit... not selling records is as bad as paying settlement money... if not worse.

I disagree, look at Mos Def and Kweli...nearly every song features them using at least a short phrase or line from an 80's or early 90's song. I think in hip-hop these days, nothing is sacred.

[Tone Deft]

they bite out of respect. you can't call A Children's Story biting, it's a tribute.

the worst biting I've heard was some early N.E.R.D release, they bit just about every rhyme the Beastie Boys wrote.

[hurlingdervish]

dervish why don't you drop some of them good samples on us that you've got

if you look at early hiphop they pretty much raped every loop they could... it was really a matter of time that someone sampled X and someone else sampled Y untill theres not much left to sample

sure it worked then...but how long can sample relient beats go on for?

not very long

we have all heard funky drummer, apache, amen to death. the frontiersmen time of sampling is over.