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evolwizard wrote:are you fucking serious?! maybe you should consider another profession if you need to be told how to manage your free time. only boring people get bored.

i sincerely doubt even the most interesting people can keep themselves entertained by themselves for hours in cities they dont know. get real

whatever dude. throw me in a new spot and it's on. I definitely wouldn't be crying on a forum looking for road signs to deal with myself. and that's as real as it gets yo.

He sure know how to kill time, he posted on this forum!!

Android Bishop wrote:people here seem to think girls are something you can just pick up at the grocery store and take home with you. Prozzies dont count guys

that is stupid to think, no one said that, but it is easy to have a hell lot of fun with girls, anywhere, anytime unless you are gay or the dullest person on the planet, in the later case you really should give up DJ-ing.

EDIT: bored on tour, i really don't believe it , jeez... touring that was the peak of fun times in my life.

Android Bishop wrote:people here seem to think girls are something you can just pick up at the grocery store and take home with you. Prozzies dont count guys

You need to sort your moves out.


But yeah, gigs can be really dull from all the waiting around. Last tour I was involved in I wasn't part of the band, that's even less fun!

The promoter should provide you with a hotel room and/or a good meal in a decent restaurant.

Any promoter that is not concerned with the well being of the artist is either an amateur OR taking the piss.
Making you hang about at the venue with nothing to do for six hours is detrimental to your energy for the show.

You need the hotel room to have your own personal space, be able to chill, sleep, take a shower etc FFS.
When the promoter says, "we didn't arrange a hotel room but we have this nice apartment for you", sometimes you do get lucky, but it still isn't the same.

chris vine wrote:The promoter should provide you with a hotel room and/or a good meal in a decent restaurant.

Any promoter that is not concerned with the well being of the artist is either an amateur OR taking the piss.
Making you hang about at the venue with nothing to do for six hours is detrimental to your energy for the show.

You need the hotel room to have your own personal space, be able to chill, sleep, take a shower etc FFS.
When the promoter says, "we didn't arrange a hotel room but we have this nice apartment for you", sometimes you do get lucky, but it still isn't the same.

+1

i did not even thought it is necessary to mention... but yes, absolutely,
a decent place to stay and being taken out for a good meal and not just some pizza crap and shown around the town / place, basically to be looked really well after is a standard, respectively it's important to not take any gigs if that is not sorted out. don't undersell yourself, don't take the piss.

and that does not mean you have to be an arrogant asshole, but you are a guest, be treated like one. on a side note: any promoter not doing that is simply stupid, i used to run (created) a club and the service of my guests was the most important thing ever to me, effect is that i still long time after the club closed i have a lot of advantages in many ways from it. people remember forever how they have been treated.

still really shocked about being bored, you must do something wrong!!! very wrong!!!, or you are just simply dull and then nothing is going to help.
jeez..., i mentioned it already, touring was my best time (fun) ever in my life, make it to your best time ever in your life, if you can't you really should consider selling shoes instead.

apseven wrote:Disk Defrag.

Major lol, good thing i wasn't drinking anything.

As someone who just recently started throwing events, I will say that it is NOT always within our capability to afford to put up all of our talent in hotel rooms. That can be more expensive than the talent itself. We do what we can but dont go on tour expecting to be put up in your own suite for every gig you do. You shouldn't be left to your own devices at the venue for hours either though, that is NOT ok.

Android Bishop wrote:people here seem to think girls are something you can just pick up at the grocery store and take home with you. Prozzies dont count guys

Im batting about 40% pick up rate, between 2-10 attempts a week. Im below average in looks and Im unemployed. Talking to girls is free, Its the best boredom killer there is.

get used to it bro

your best bet is to take a walk and go site seeing.. lol... i went on tour this summer.. i had to be in a different city every morning/mid-day, and i wouldnt play until late at night because we were headliners.

take a walk, grab some food, scope the women, bring your roadies (if any, always good to have 1 or 2 buds/or gals with ya) go site seeing, take pictures.. you know.. hang out.. bring a second lappy and surf teh net

it is NOT always within our capability to afford to put up all of our talent in hotel rooms

This could be a propper heads up..don't work for this guy.

You shouldn't be left to your own devices at the venue for hours either though, that is NOT ok.

why not. you can't afford rooms but you can afford a nanny? who needs to get real?

evolwizard wrote:

it is NOT always within our capability to afford to put up all of our talent in hotel rooms

This could be a propper heads up..don't work for this guy.

You shouldn't be left to your own devices at the venue for hours either though, that is NOT ok.

why not. you can't afford rooms but you can afford a nanny? who needs to get real?

+1

this is a heads up for not working for this guy, he does something wrong!

and LOL

really? you guys require a hotel room?

i dont know about you, but i would rather have the extra 60 bucks in my pocket and sleep on the promoters sofa then stay at a hotel

also, who said anything about a nanny? all the best promoters i know meet up with you when you get into town, take you home, make you a meal, and then head to the venue together

touring is a money making venture, why force people to pay for things when you could put that money in your pocket?

@Android Bishop: We'll play one of your shows anytime!

I can understand the problem of a promoter having to pay for hotel rooms for several people....yeh OK, it all depends on the situation and the "talent" LOL.

But Zalo, you want to sleep on sofas every day for 6 weeks at a time and be dependent on someone else's timetable? I guess it depends on the luxury of the promoter's pad...I remember a lovely cat piss smelling flea pit in Pittsburgh of one "promoter".

On a funnier note, I also remember one band leader threatening to stick his finger down his throat when a promoter was complaining that he'd given us soup and we were being ungrateful...."you want your soup back?! I can get it back for you right now!"

When I first started touring, I used to not mind the apartment accomodation thing, but later I realized that the old hands were right in wanting a clean hotel room, a meal and their own space. It doesn't have to be a suite....but of course that's nice when you get it.