Building a pc and....

[dokken]

so is microsofts software.. which is why i have no need to switch to mac or linux.. fast, stable, reliable, simple, and cheap.

but i know everyone laughs at me because of that

it's about investing in the right things to get the most benefit. and gigging now for years with a vista based laptop with no problem ever in all those years at least shows i can not be that wrong

[nebulae]

I'm getting 4 19" samsung lcd's to go with it =)

Awesome! Now you can put Operator on one windown, and Analog on another, and Drum Racks on another and...

oh wait, never mind :/

[BBScience]

Build a hackintosh. You get the price/customization benefit of a PC and the greatness that is OSX.

[dokken]

As for getting a Mac, short of the hard drives, you can't swap shit. That and the price of entry keep me from getting one, even though I'll be the first to admit that OSX is cooler, and that Win7, even after 8 years of development is still a ghetto version of OSX. But the ghetto is getting gentrified pretty fast

I think you can swap out more than just the hard drives, but yeah, it's not really a platform that's friendly to DIY tinkering. The price of entry sucks really bad too. One can always go the Hackintosh route though.

Windows 7 definitely owes a great deal to OS X. Not the first time that Microsoft has ripped off Apple either. I just prefer the look and feel of Windows, even when it's ripping off OS X.

[nebulae]

The thing about Hackintosh is that it doesn't feel like a long-term solution - every time there's an update, you gotto redo the boot record and bios and crap, right?

[redglass]

Building a new PC to run live 8 and reason 4 along with a couple vsts. I am not an apple fan. I need some help deciding between

1) amd vs intel

is the core i7 really worth the price or should i save some cash and get the amd phenom

2) ddr2 vs ddr3
is ddr3 really that much better

thank you in advance for your advice

Hi,

I build a pc and is running fine so far:
costs were a bit less then 700 EUR!

Intel Quad Q 9550 + arctic cooler freezer 7 pro pwm
Gigabyte EP43-DS3, gigabit nic onboard
2x2 GB Ram OCZ Platinum
2 x WD Caviar Black (500 + 1000)
Samsung DVD-writer
His Grafik Radeon HD 4670 IceQ PCIe
3 x Onboard Firewire, TI Chipset
Antec 300 MidiTower
Cooler Master Silent Pro M 500W power supply (which is a bit over the top, as the system takes 80-90 W in idle modus)

Greez Bastian

[dokken]

The thing about Hackintosh is that it doesn't feel like a long-term solution - every time there's an update, you gotto redo the boot record and bios and crap, right?

Not necessarily. Check out this article on Lifehacker. Apparently there are now tools that allow you to install and update OS X on a Hackintosh without so much of the geeky hacking.

[nebulae]

^ cool reading up on it - thx!

Do you know if Hackintosh runs on i7 chips - if so, then you can build a mac that's faster than anything currently offered by Apple...

[dokken]

^ cool reading up on it - thx!

Do you know if Hackintosh runs on i7 chips - if so, then you can build a mac that's faster than anything currently offered by Apple...

No problemo amigo.

Apparently there are many people who have set up an i7 Hackintosh but I'm not sure if it's supported with the automated tools mentioned in that Lifehacker article. You might have to roll up your sleeves and get a little geeky

[ekwipt]

^ cool reading up on it - thx!

Do you know if Hackintosh runs on i7 chips - if so, then you can build a mac that's faster than anything currently offered by Apple...

It's possible and will take a bit of reading but good thin is people have been using the i7 chips for a while so the process is pretty much settled on.

Gigabyte board
Core i7

Gigabyte overclocking guide to get you system at 4.0 Ghz

That's some serious power, I could put together an awesome i7 system for say $2000 and it would blow away all the current Macpro 4 cores and maybe even faster than the 8 cores in certain apps

[djsynchro]

I don't even use a firewall.

Not even the Windows firewall? (which surprise-surpise, isn't very good) Especially with an always-on connection (Cable or ADSL without dialing in) if you don't have a firewall your PC is wide open to a hacker who runs a port scanning program; A PC has something crazy like 2000 ports and they need to be stealthed. Just because you never had it doesn't mean it can't happen.

By the way at a recent hacker convention OSX was the first platform out of the 3 (OSX, Windows, Linux) to be hacked. There ARE viruses for OSX and for Linux too! Especially on Linux a virus can cover its tracks very well so you'd never know what hit you. There simply aren't many people writing viruses for those platforms.

[nebulae]

yeah, that windows firewall is on by default, but I meant that people feel the need to get an Antivirus, AND a Firewall, AND an anti-Spyware...you spend 200mb in ram and CPU cycles, when all you really need to do is to use Firefox and be smart about where you visit and what you download.

[nebulae]

oh also, it's a purely numbers game. OSX has 5% market share, so there are way fewer people who care to hack it. If the situation was reversed and everyone used OSX, I can guarantee that OSX would have all sorts of viruses. In short, it's not the platform, but the people who create the viruses.