what are you wanting from MAX 4 Live

[ddr400]

i just want max4live in this year.

[emef]

i'm not interested in max4live
there will be some things i would like from it
but not for the £300 its probably gonna cost
i can make music wi what i've got

[patchdub]

a release date!!

[guap]

Some of these may be beyond the scope of what M4L will be able to do but if it is possible they're esoteric enough that's the only way they'd ever get implemented. There are also already ways to kinda do some of these things in Live but they're not so robust. I'm putting this out there now in case anybody else finds any of it interesting, but I'll nut up and do it myself if I have to.

Multiple remote control surface support, like how the blue hand's focus on a device title bar can be mapped to MIDI. I want more of those so I can can hit a button to map a controller to something and another button to map another controller to something else (or using groups, one button to do both at the same time) without fooling with channels or whatever backward way the controller manufacturer has implemented scenes in-controller. (There may be a way to do this and I'm just dumb as hell?)

Not just a step sequencer, but a mod sequencer for drawing automation sequences on button grids/faders/rows of knobs.

Here's an easy one: An envelope follower! (AHR with variable curves and built in lag so as not to mess with host delay compensation, all tempo-syncable)

On a similar note, a transient detector that sends customizable events.

Both of those last 2 would go great with crossovers (for sound shaping and sound replacer type applications) but there are already reasonably working audio effect rack/VST solutions available for crossover functionality in live.

An index memory buffer with mappable triggers for dumping sliced buffers into existing or new drum/instrument racks based on slicing preset. Appending to existing racks would be important as these can have their focus mapped ahead of time. Slice stuff up live without ever looking at the screen!

A simpler but related idea: An effect that receives a note and dumps the audio captured while the note was pressed into a rack mapped to that note. There's a plugin that does something similar (InstantSampler) but if this thing mapped the dumped samples to the macro controls of its siblings it would be a whole nother level of ballin.


More experimental ideas:

A massively parallel splitter (almost a vocoder) that you could either drop an effect on or use inbuilt effects and parametrically vary them by band in interesting patterns. As much of the splitter's functionality would be parametric as possible, down to the band distribution (like a continuous morphing from odd harmonic series to linear (center position) to 2^(1/12):1 (or a loaded scale file/incoming midi notes) to even harmonic)

Another indexing memory buffer designed to work with a simple control: 2 rotary encoders. 1 encoder selects slices and the other moves a playhead over the current slice— or a sampler where you can select slices with midi note and move the playhead with some timecode vinyl… maybe Serato's upcoming mystery thing will let us do something like this.

I also hope it's easy to incorporate support for the groove pool into any tempo-synced functions.

[zalo]

I don't have any knowledge of what might or might not be possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dk7Il3EqI0

[leonard]

I don't have any knowledge of what might or might not be possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dk7Il3EqI0

lol @ people who say this.
out of the realm of my imagination, i can only think of about 10% of things that are possible in reality, let alone with max. thats not withstanding the amount of knowledge and skill one requires to actually implement complex systems.

[outershpongolia]

then i think i'll just geek out on it for like a month or 7

Haha, you'll be up all night geekin'.

[zalo]

out of the realm of my imagination, i can only think of about 10% of things that are possible in reality, let alone with max. thats not withstanding the amount of knowledge and skill one requires to actually implement complex systems.

youre making it seem like i was expecting to make a squirrel with wings that shits gold coins with max for live

look at the stuff thats already been made, thats not 5% of whats possible, yes there are limitations, but it seems to me the biggest limitations are going to be your imagination

and about the second part, of course there is a learning curve, there is going to be a lot of debugging, but thats exciting

think of all the things you have had to figure out how to do in live, all the racks youve had to build and work on to get them right

that part of the process is as much fun as the music you create using it!!!!!!!

i dont know about you but im so excited about learning to use max for live and making things, im obviously not going to be able to make the most complex things at first, but there is no time limit, im sure in a year i will have built something extreme and awesome

[leonard]

lol i suggest you take it very seriously.

do what the fuck you want, speculate all the fuck you want,
postulate and procrastinate all the fuck you want...


mfl gives me wood!

[IP]

will be there any support for video??

looking forward for some video effect racks ;p

[H20nly]

head and for it to get beers out the fridge for me.
packing bowls would be nice too.

+

(from "Weird Science")

merge to form Hotron!

[SubFunk]

a giant library of 'modules' to choose from... cause i suck in programming.

[nathannn]

(from "Weird Science")

eww butterface

[boomstix]

community!

the thought of what such a huge group of users will come up with makes my brain fizz

[RCUS]

dear Max 4 Live, i want a GODDAMN MIDI assignable 'LOCK Device to Current Control surface' button.....oh wait, it's already in Live as a custom user script a.k.a. userconfiguration.txt file that works fine in Live 7 but broke in Live 8! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

sorry for the rant, i'm just pissed that I spent all of my free time last week troubleshooting why 'LockButton' doesn't work, and not ONE person at Ableton has responded to this issue even though i've had an email support and a thread in support section. Doesn't surpise me considering the majority of Live users don't even know what userconfiguration.txt is, let alone what 'LockButton' is supposed to do.

at this point if Max 4 Live does enable a MIDI assignable 'Lock device to Current Control Surface' button, i'd be forced to buy it, so at least I can justify the 20 hours i spent last week dicking around with a broken function in Live 8. /rant