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i really dont think any of those will be classics, in 5 years some crazy shit will be out and will make these look like crap, completely killing them off and people will start forgetting, probably more like more then 5 years tho, but you never know. Once every thing is multi touch screen controllers then none of the past controllers will compare. Maybe when weve reached that day in age then we might look back and be like oh man the apc40 man what a classic controller, knobs and all lol.

Original Axiom 25.

I can let you have mine now for 300 bucks or you can wait 5 years and pay 800.

its your choice.

I think the touchscreen stuff won't be the future as musicians will always prefer tactile controls over instruments, playing synths on touchscreens doesn't feel very good
the day that everything feels like using an atm machine will be a sad day

adventurepants_ wrote:None of em.

I love midi controllers, but they have zero mojo, unlike an instrument. They are simply a tool that is useless outside of the context of a DAW, hell most of em dont even have midi ports now so you cannot use them outside of a DAW at all.

In 5-10 years time it will probably be impossible to use any of todays controllers due to port incompatibilites, ancient drivers and the fact that everything they do will be done better by the next generation of controllers. Besides that, does anyone think that these cheaply made heaps of crap will even work in 5 years time?

I offer a silent prayer to the blue smoke gods every time my BCR2K powers up.

yeah that sounds right to me

Classic midi controller?

Fuck right off.

That's like asking what will be the classic airport luggage trolley in five years time.

Nobody has yet come up with a controller design that doesn't make me want to shit in the bath and drown in my own faeces.

bobninehedges wrote:Classic midi controller?

Fuck right off.

That's like asking what will be the classic airport luggage trolley in five years time.

Nobody has yet come up with a controller design that doesn't make me want to shit in the bath and drown in my own faeces.

but how do you really feel

oh how could I forget the JL Cooper Cs-32 definitely a classic

http://www.sweetwater.com/images/public ... S-32.1.jpg

I wonder why nobody mentioned the continuum fingerboard. The only controller which has the potential turning into a real instrument. To have no visual feedback is considered an advantage in this case...
Regarding 10 years old controllers, I still use my old MixTAB from Fostex, though its clone the UC-33 is much more known (another classic not mentioned in the poll) but these are cheap plastic boxes.
The real classic in samplers of course was the Fairlight. EMU made a clone which was better and way cheaper than the original.
For a similar reason launchpad will become a classic for its price and size, though, its origin, the monome is way more pure and consequent. Yamaha really missed the point in releasing their monome clone (the tenori-on) not as a controller - what a shame, and it would have been so much less r&d for them. Maybe they wake up when they see how the launchpad will flood the stages. I'd love to have a wireless Tenori-on as controller, but they just forgot to implement it. Any of their programmers would need less than a day to make it work. If they'd hire musicians instead of marketing idiots maybe...;-)

Stefan

None.

starving student wrote:I think the touchscreen stuff won't be the future as musicians will always prefer tactile controls over instruments, playing synths on touchscreens doesn't feel very good
the day that everything feels like using an atm machine will be a sad day

Totally agree - I was looking at a lemur, but I want to actually FEEL what I am working with, not just slide my finger across a screen.

starving student wrote:I think the touchscreen stuff won't be the future as musicians will always prefer tactile controls over instruments, playing synths on touchscreens doesn't feel very good
the day that everything feels like using an atm machine will be a sad day

Interesting. made me think of old engineers and mix/master doods saying the same thing about using computers- "no faders to ride - a mouse? replace a bunch of faders and knobs?"
seems like over the years we slowly start getting comfortable with something convenient and extend-able. Nt saying that touchscreens will replace keyboards for everyone, but there are people who will adapt their sets to touch screens for the reasons i mentioned.

The Korg legacy Mini MS-20 controller surely???

stefan-tiedje wrote:I wonder why nobody mentioned the continuum fingerboard. The only controller which has the potential turning into a real instrument. To have no visual feedback is considered an advantage in this case...

Good call. The the continuum fingerboard is an amazing instrument.

mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:

starving student wrote:I think the touchscreen stuff won't be the future as musicians will always prefer tactile controls over instruments, playing synths on touchscreens doesn't feel very good
the day that everything feels like using an atm machine will be a sad day

Interesting. made me think of old engineers and mix/master doods saying the same thing about using computers- "no faders to ride - a mouse? replace a bunch of faders and knobs?"
seems like over the years we slowly start getting comfortable with something convenient and extend-able. Nt saying that touchscreens will replace keyboards for everyone, but there are people who will adapt their sets to touch screens for the reasons i mentioned.

yeah some are like that, but today even young folks want faders over a mouse so in that regard it looks like the old dudes were right

you guys know that you can only post up 10 choices for the poll right.

uc33 and bcr2k

likes I said fatars are classics and they don't even have usb connections, not the current studiologics but the black ones studio80- studio 900s man I love those