"Old" pluggo plug-ins incompatible with Live 8.1

[Machinesworking]

Kleine,
Thanks! wasn't sure if I got that right!

Too bad about not being able to use M4L and Pluggo simultaneously,
not surprising though considering it would be like running Max twice.

If you don't mind I have another question I would be thrilled to know the answer to:
What Pluggos are included in M4L? I haven't seen a list as of yet,
are more being ported or am I not looking in the right places on the web?

[kleine]

If i´m not mistaken you get:


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Audio effects:

Audio Rate Pan
Average Injector
Chamberverb
Chorus x2
Comber
Cyclotron
Dynamical
Feedback Network
FilterTaps
Flange-o-tron
Fragulator
Generic Effect
Granular-to-go
Harmonic Filter
Mangle Filter
Monster Crunch
Nebula
Noyzckippr
Pendulum
Phase Scope
Phone Filter
PluggoFuzz
Raindrops
Rye
Space Echo
Spectral Filter
Speed Shifter
SquirrelParade
Stereo Adjuster
Stutterer
Swirl
Tapped Delay
Tremellow
VIbrato Cauldron
Warpoon
Wasteband
Waveshaper
Wheat
Xformer
Max SignalViewers
Max RingModDual
Max RingMod
Max PanStereo
Max PeakLimiter
Max Overdrive
Max PanDualMono
Max MixDualMono
Max MixStereo
Max MSMatrix
Max Degrader
Max DelayLine
Max EqParametric1
Max GainDualMono
Max GainStereo
Max BalanceDualMono
Max BalanceStereo
Max Chorus
Max CombFilter
Max CutHacker
Max AutoPanner
Max AutoFilter
Max AutoRingMod
Max CombFilterMulti
Max Compressor
Max CutKiller
Max DelayMultiBand
Max DelayTaps
Max DopplerPan
Max EffectMatrix
Max EnvFollower
Max EqGraphic31
Max EqParametric4
Max EqShelving
Max SignalAnalyzer
Max SpectralDelay
Max SpectralHarm
Buffer Shuffler
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Instruments:

Additive Heaven
Analogue Drums
Bassline
Big Ben Bell
Flying Waves
Laverne
Shephard Tones
Vocalese
Loop Shifter
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MIDI effects:

Step Sequencer
Max SimpleEcho
Max ANotePlayer
Max Humanizer
Max NoteScaler
Max PitchScaler
Max StepEcho
Max PolyBeat
Max MidiShuffler
Max MidiGran
Max ImproBeat

plus the user stuff over at maxforlive.com

Best,
Christian

[Machinesworking]

OK seeing that most of the Pluggo plug ins made it into M4L makes the whole thing a little more palatable.
They said 'some' at first. Laverne is a basic synth compared to most, but I found uses for it all the time, and Feedback Network, Chorus x2, Harmonic Filter are all great.

Thanks, really, that helps maintain perspective.

[dnigrin]

Here is a way that one can at least temporarily run Pluggo-based plugins in Live 8.1 (though at the expense of not being able to concurrently use an MFL device). This is for Mac systems only, but I'm sure there is a similar set of instructions for Windows.

Ctrl-click the Live application, and select Show Package Contents. Within the resulting window that opens, go into the Contents folder, and from there, temporarily move the Frameworks folder and its contents somewhere else (I put it on the Desktop). Now you should be able to start Live, and use your Pluggo-based plugins (though MFL will not work).

To restore MFL functionality, just put the Frameworks folder and its contents back where they were originally.

Crappy workaround, but better than nothing for the time being...

Dan

[jon_moore]

Here is a way that one can at least temporarily run Pluggo-based plugins in Live 8.1 (though at the expense of not being able to concurrently use an MFL device). This is for Mac systems only, but I'm sure there is a similar set of instructions for Windows.

Ctrl-click the Live application, and select Show Package Contents. Within the resulting window that opens, go into the Contents folder, and from there, temporarily move the Frameworks folder and its contents somewhere else (I put it on the Desktop). Now you should be able to start Live, and use your Pluggo-based plugins (though MFL will not work).

To restore MFL functionality, just put the Frameworks folder and its contents back where they were originally.

Crappy workaround, but better than nothing for the time being...

Dan

Good to know anyway. At the moment I'm having to use 8.09 to use ColorTone (which due for a native conversion in the coming weeks anyway but still a pain anyway).