8.1 sucks

Jekblad · Post by **Jekblad** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:59 pm

djsynchro wrote:
djcosmonaut wrote: 8.0.9 loads it in 2 minutes.
8.1 spends over 10 minutes on the same project, and goes freezing after.
Fair enough, that sucks ass.

dj's unite!

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:20 am

every new version fixes bugs and introduces new ones. last bug that was introduced for me all of a sudden Sylenth1 doesn't receive note-offs and keeps droning all over the place. Especially if you, the user didn't do anything APART FROM installing a new version and all of a sudden shit goes haywire it's irritating. Installs fiddling with your library for over an hour are also scary (what does that do anyway?)

H20nly · Post by **H20nly** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:13 am

djsynchro wrote:Installs fiddling with your library for over an hour are also scary (what does that do anyway?)

scares the shit out of me...

"the following 200 samples could not be found. click here to see if you're fucked"

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:08 am

John's busy selling the latest gear he just bought

ark · Post by **ark** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:53 am

djcosmonaut wrote:i use over 500 clips in my project.
8.0.9 loads it in 2 minutes.
8.1 spends over 10 minutes on the same project, and goes freezing after.

There's a cpu usage problem in 8.1 that is fixed in 8.1.1b3; you might try your project with 8.1.1b3 and see if it works better.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:56 am

8.1.1b3 seems not bad.

8.1 was incredibly unstable and from the sounds of things, bugs which I'm glad I didn't have the time to come across. I couldn't even open Max for Live devices in 8.1, it said Max was wasn't the right version or something or just couldn't load (but it was the latest at the time). Once I got the beta for 8.1.1 it would open.

I definitely suggest people to grab the beta, it's a much smaller file then normally so it's a quick download.

davepermen · Post by **davepermen** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:59 am

djsynchro wrote:Installs fiddling with your library for over an hour are also scary (what does that do anyway?)

they should add ads for ssds while doing the update. library update done in 1-2 minutes or so here

djcosmonaut · Post by **djcosmonaut** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:46 am

thanx for your reply mates,
yeah, i always backup projects, but turning back to 8.0.9 took a long time... fortunately, it happened at home, not on a stage )
i believe some bugs will b fixed, but let's focus on one significant general mistake ableton team made.
they decide Live must hardly compress every project you save, then decompress it when load back. (that's why you can't open 8.1 projects in 8.0.x)
What for????
Saving / loading big DJ-projects in 8.1 take huge time.
It doesn't worth it!
Saving time is much more important than saving few megabytes of HD space!!!
Small songs load quick enough, but there's almost no hd space saving with it.
No real benefits, just suffer.
Sure Ableton team must turn back to normal file handling,
or give user a choice to compress / or not before saving.

tw1nstates · Post by **tw1nstates** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:37 am

Version 8 has just fucked me full stop.

I wish I hadn't upgraded.

Or I could have had folder tracks and grooves on their own.

it was f*cking expensive, doesn't work properly and has a load of stupid shit I didn't need - vocoder and limiter for example.

BAH!

djcosmonaut · Post by **djcosmonaut** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:14 pm

oh no, this discussion isn't about 8 vs 7!
sure 8.0.x rules! love all new plugins, and new way of warping is great!
only bugs & wrong file handling in 8.1 is a problem.

Slightlydelic · Post by **Slightlydelic** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:51 pm

maybee its the integration of max4live in 8.1 that has brought about some new bugs for some people.

rock solid on 8.05 here

dooZ · Post by **dooZ** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:18 pm

I'm using 8.1, with a few instances of M4L pinky + some monome apps.

While having one deck playing and scratching on the other deck, I'd get crash after crash.

I'm gonna test out the beta 3 tonight.. if it doesn't help I'm back to Live 8.0.4 or 5. with pinky VSTs

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:22 pm

dooZ wrote:I'm using 8.1, with a few instances of M4L pinky + some monome apps.

While having one deck playing and scratching on the other deck, I'd get crash after crash.

I'm gonna test out the beta 3 tonight.. if it doesn't help I'm back to Live 8.0.4 or 5. with pinky VSTs

i think that is calling for trouble... 8.1 introduced a new filesystem... once you saved something in 8.1 there is not way back... or am i wrong here???

that is why i not even try 8.1 after all those reports, otherwise i would give it a shot, but under these circumstances i wait for 8.1.1 and hope it will be fine...

senator adam · Post by **senator adam** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:26 pm

Slightlydelic wrote:maybee its the integration of max4live in 8.1 that has brought about some new bugs for some people.

rock solid on 8.05 here

Yeah I am solid on one machine with 8.05, and 8.04 on another. Not changing it... Never upgrade until you see reviews on the upgrade. It's not worth the headache and delay in making music.

locojohn · Post by **locojohn** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:35 pm

tw1nstates wrote: it was f*cking expensive, doesn't work properly and has a load of stupid shit I didn't need - vocoder and limiter for example.

If you don't need a limiter someone else does. The world isn't turning around you, you know..

Andrejs

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