OT:Apple i-lemur'?

[LoopStationZebra]

pfft.

If this thing is priced at anything over $800 it's going to be another Newton.

Nice. Functional. Ahead of it's time. And a complete failure.

[glitchrock-buddha]

I don't think it's going to be a failure at all. I think it'll be huge.

Just saying for music stuff, I enjoy the feeling of actual knobs, keys and buttons too much to want to do any kind of control on a screen. The lemur wasn't my cup of tea either, nor are iphone apps. What I want is power in a lappy.

[adventurepants_]

pfft.

If this thing is priced at anything over $800 it's going to be another Newton.

Nice. Functional. Ahead of it's time. And a complete failure.

There is going to be a lot of competition this year in multi touch tablets. Im very interested in these things, and there is at least 4 decent ones that I know of that will come to market in the next few months.

And I had a Newton! they were nice and ahead of its time, but not really very functional.

[bodhi71]

So, if Apple is trying to platform this iTablet to be more than a net-book, but less than a Macbook, where does LIve fit in?
Could something like this run a DAW? At least for Live performance.
Or am I just fantasizing too much?

[anybody human]

My only question is how could they keep the price down? I'd buy it just for reading, scrolling your phone gets old.

A whole lot of smart people think the tablet/ book/ reader thingy is going to be a game changer, especially if Apple gets into it. It's easy to forget how huge a lifestyle change the iPhone represents, not so much now- but in terms of people's relationship to, and expectations of technology in the future.

Some people even say the tablet might save the newspapers if they could create websites more interactive, video etc. The theory says it would give them a new product, not just a website copy of the paper, and if it was cool enough people might pay for it. Who knows.

Anyway, all Apple would have to do is throw an iPhone into a bigger touchscreen, the technology is already there. Problem is, price. How would they keep the price down? A Jazzmutant Lemur is $1700. If it's $500/600 look out, if it's $800-1000, it might take a few years. Gonna get here sooner or later though. I just hope the networks hold up, they're already having problems in big tech-y cities.

[Tone Deft]

volume and practice.

they've had practice making multi-touch screens from years of making the iPhone and iTouch. make a few billion of those and the fab process gets better, more efficient, cheaper, all that. then they've got a HUGE market of people waiting to buy any damn iThing they want to make ensuring volume pricing on the new stuff.

maybe not this year, maybe not next year but soon the Lemur will be history.

[anybody human]

I'm hesitant to listen to anyone who uses skullcandy skullcrusher headphones...

Although I'm curious what market Apple intend to target with this proposed device ? The beauty of the iTouch is it's a glorified iPod and it fits in your pocket. The iPhone; a glorified phone. Those things will sell regardless and so there'll inevitably be homebrewed apps for producer folks seeing as the devices are relatively common. But who's going to buy the 'iSlate' ? Are Apple making it for musicians ? I'm skeptical about that.

At $1k, and with a limited OS and no keyboard - it's not going to put a dent in the netbook market imo..

It is most definitely not being made for musicians. It's most likely a reader/ internet device to fill the space between computers and phones. Music apps would be just one aspect I would think.

BTW, could you guys see the iBook/iSlate/iThing becoming your "go to" tablet?

[3phase]

pfft.

If this thing is priced at anything over $800 it's going to be another Newton.

Nice. Functional. Ahead of it's time. And a complete failure.

?? some people are willing to pay 400 for an iphone

[LoopStationZebra]

There's no doubt that it'll be cool and that I'll want one. I'm a fanboy, what can I say?

However, fanboy sales alone won't make this a winner. Not in this fucking economy, it won't. No sir.

Could be interesting for running iTouchMIDI or something.

The iPhone/iTouch STILL doesn't support Flash. Let's hope they get that shit resolved for this tablet. No Flash on what essentially amounts to a netbook with no cover would be the ultimate fail, lol.

[LoopStationZebra]

pfft.

If this thing is priced at anything over $800 it's going to be another Newton.

Nice. Functional. Ahead of it's time. And a complete failure.

?? some people are willing to pay 400 for an iphone

...and? lol.

[beats me]

My only question is how could they keep the price down? I'd buy it just for reading, scrolling your phone gets old.

If they are using iphone/itunes as a model then I believe they get a piece of what developers sell their apps for. So they get a huge amount of developers making software for it that they don't have to pay and the money just rolls in.

[Shillelagh Law]

e-readers use e-ink. they are specifically designed for the purpose of reading and they function a little like an etch-a-sketch. the battery power is used for an instant to display the page, and then it uses next to nothing until you switch pages. they are high contrast, and you can read war & peace on a single charge with juice left over. They are much cheaper than $1k.

Given the price and spec, I don't feel this proposed iSlate yoke is aiming for the e-reader peoples, or at least it's not going to lure folks who are purely interested in e-reading.

which leaves me to wonder if it's going to be a fancy internet device, in which case I prefer netbooks. Less limited OS. tactile keyboard FTW. and no smudge marks on my screen when I'm boobtubing. and, and, and. Also my netbook runs live 4/5 like a dream.

[LoopStationZebra]

Of course, sneaking the iSlate into the bathroom for a quick wank is a plus.

Always a pain with the laptop. Not to mention a bit obvious.

[Shillelagh Law]

volume and practice.

they've had practice making multi-touch screens from years of making the iPhone and iTouch. make a few billion of those and the fab process gets better, more efficient, cheaper, all that. then they've got a HUGE market of people waiting to buy any damn iThing they want to make ensuring volume pricing on the new stuff.

maybe not this year, maybe not next year but soon the Lemur will be history.

I'm not exactly hunting down patents on a daily basis, but that last statement of yours seems a little too grand.
jazzmutant is merely the media/audio division of Stantum Technologies. in terms of practice, jazzmutant's core aim is to provide digital artists with touchscreen/interface technology. Might not have the volume of sales of apple. but that's to be expected. Apple mostly sell (edit: iTouches etc) to joe-soap media consumers with spare cash, the musicians/performers/digi-creators are kind of an afterthought..

lemurs are built for performance. and jazzmutant are committed to that ideal.

and I don't see the lemur dying off unless Stantum die off too...

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2009/02/19 ... -very-nice
http://ph.hardwarezone.com/news/view.php?id=15186&cid=

[LoopStationZebra]

the musicians/performers/digi-creators are kind of an afterthought..

eh.

No.

Apple has always quite firmly targeted that customer base. Practically cornered it.

In fact, after Jobs was ousted way back when, it's ONLY the artists that kept Apple going, lol.

And the Lemur will be history. Sooner rather than later. The portable touch screen is going to explode. Within 2 or 3 years they will have the processing horsepower to rival their laptop cousins. Then....