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What? Are you telling me the D A G chord progression has been done before on a guitar?!?!?!

I like the quote in your siggy there. I often feel about the abyss in the total opposite way

SHEAR TERROR

cheap excuses from people with a lack of own ideas or the atitude to be an original..
the whole world would be better of without this type.

I steal all-the time. I sample vinyls, rip-off riffs from rock tracks etc..

No matter how accurately i try to copy something it allways end up sounding completely different. Basically I suck as a copyist

My favourite quote is:
"Being original and always doing the new thing is incredibly overrated."
- Ethan Coen, Playboy Magazine, November 2001

What would be Tarantino without ripping?

i think there's plenty of space left unoccupied. in dance music there hasn't been much venturing from 4/4. and if it has it's been some esoteric crap that has not groove. make it groove and through some pan flutes in it.

Freekster wrote:I steal all-the time. I sample vinyls, rip-off riffs from rock tracks etc..

No matter how accurately i try to copy something it allways end up sounding completely different. Basically I suck as a copyist

My favourite quote is:
"Being original and always doing the new thing is incredibly overrated."
- Ethan Coen, Playboy Magazine, November 2001

What would be Tarantino without ripping?

he is tptaly unoriginal? you really cant say that.. and he is not ripping in the sense that he cuts parts out of other films...
so he is not sampling.. some kind of resinthesis ..maybe a cover version.. but not even a remix..
original enough

you forget that the market is flooded with useless records..what makes it difficult for people to find good music... what leads to only comercial music in radios and to much bad tracks in clubs.. the dying of underground labels.. distributers.. and musicans..

its not the problem that someone copys a track.. or whatever... but why releasing it ? to proove what?

bands that covered the beatles or the stones in the past dont really tried to get that stuff out on a record..at least most of them didnt..

what people want to show with records that are a patchwork of others people sound , beats and hooks? that they are great in combining things?

why not become a dj than? ,, more profit there.

@ 3PHASE, you're points might be somewhat useful, but still, if you don't post your own tunes, you really have no weight when you condemn people who express their take on the process of making them. For all anybody knows you can't produce a fart. So ..



PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

post own tunes? that sounds really professional

well, what the op said was not really about taking other tracks, mashing them a bit up, and trying to sell them as own.

what he talks about is, you work on something, and then note it just sounds similar to a tune you like, from some other artist.

but this is normal. if you try to get a certain style working, no matter if it's electro house, trance, jazz, rock, or something else, then you will automatically copy much. you copy the instruments, you copy the rhythms, the basic track structures, and the type of tonality the track gets.

there's no "i do it all new and in a way it never existed before" and then still fit into a style that .. exists. to fit a style it has to reuse parts of what that style is built upon.

i don't care much about it. i know i've built my tracks 100% on my own (or nearly). if i get something that remembers me of a track i like, then, for me, that's a good thing. and i know such tracks will be preferred by others. people don't like new innovative things. they want the same, a bit different.

and to start the panik mode of a lot of artists: music isn't much about creativity.. it is, but not in the "i can redefine everything" way. if you design a car, you can be creative, too. it still has to be able to drive on a road, has 4 weels, windows, etc..

We're bound to be influenced by that which we listened to.

But strangely others don't hear it the same way.

In my recent nomsi experiements I've had many unrelated comments drawing comparisons with Talking Heads and Ian Dury (in style I imagine, not skill).

These comments are on different forums by people who don't know each other and listened to my music independently of each other and without knowing each others comments.

That isn't strange in itself. What is strange is that I never listened to Talking Heads of Ian Dury....yet somehow I end up sounding like them.

3phase wrote:post own tunes? that sounds really professional

yeah, that's what I thought.

UKRuss wrote:We're bound to be influenced by that which we listened to.

But strangely others don't hear it the same way.

In my recent nomsi experiements I've had many unrelated comments drawing comparisons with Talking Heads and Ian Dury (in style I imagine, not skill).

These comments are on different forums by people who don't know each other and listened to my music independently of each other and without knowing each others comments.

That isn't strange in itself. What is strange is that I never listened to Talking Heads of Ian Dury....yet somehow I end up sounding like them.

hehe maybe you have both the same influences? or the genes.. no clue

q.musgrove wrote:

3phase wrote:post own tunes? that sounds really professional

yeah, that's what I thought.

you must have ripped a lot of artists.. sorry man..its lame to steal essential lines and no bullshit arguments from you will change that.. It was´nt cool at any time and it wont be cool at any time.. some people try to sell it as ok, to justify theier doings somehow..
refference picasso and tarantino..they guys that have stolen everything? tss.. great refference for copy cats.. compare themself with picasso and tarantino ) it gets better and better..

buts still lame

3phase wrote:

q.musgrove wrote:

3phase wrote:post own tunes? that sounds really professional

yeah, that's what I thought.

you must have ripped a lot of artists.. sorry man..its lame to steal essential lines and no bullshit arguments from you will change that.. It was´nt cool at any time and it wont be cool at any time.. some people try to sell it as ok, to justify theier doings somehow..
refference picasso and tarantino..they guys that have stolen everything? tss.. great refference for copy cats.. compare themself with picasso and tarantino ) it gets better and better..

buts still lame

explain me where in the original post he talks about stealing ideas? he talks about playing around, and when getting something that sounds good, it just sounds more or less like something he heard elsewhere (most likely from someone he likes, is an inspiration for him).

and this is just normal

the tittle of the thread is Ripping other artists off...

playing a style dot means that you dont need to bring in own ideas that form the basis of a NEW track...