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Re: OMFG FINALLY when something clicks it clicks
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:33 am
by ark
zalo wrote:since we were talking about warping i was assuming we were dealing with a audio file and not a midi file
Ah. What I would like to be able to do is to compose music using MIDI that I can warp to correspond to a performance. That performance could be either audio or MIDI, but there is no guarantee that every note will correspond to a beat.
Re: OMFG FINALLY when something clicks it clicks
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:42 am
by dinaiz
ark wrote:zalo wrote:since we were talking about warping i was assuming we were dealing with a audio file and not a midi file
Ah. What I would like to be able to do is to compose music using MIDI that I can warp to correspond to a performance. That performance could be either audio or MIDI, but there is no guarantee that every note will correspond to a beat.
I don't think you can make a MIDI-to-MIDI match in Ableton.
A tried and tested methods would be to render your MIDI as audio and once your midi clip is an ausio clip, apply the standard warping techniques. Yeah I know it's not the best thing but that's the only one one I can come up with.
By the way, Ableton live midi editing is very weak IMHO.
Re: OMFG FINALLY when something clicks it clicks
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:53 am
by lunabass
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Re: OMFG FINALLY when something clicks it clicks
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:43 pm
by andrewbrewer
ark wrote:I wish it were possible to warp the time grid and keep the sample sounding the same. This last sentence may sound like a joke, but it's not.
Imagine someone playing music in a way that is very free with timing. The beats are there, but the amount of time between them varies from one to the next.
Obviously, you can go through the music and put warp markers at the beat, and then stretch the music to match a fixed beat. What I'd like to do is keep the music sounding the same, and stretch the grid to fit the music. Any other tracks in my set should warp to conform to the grid, but I want the grid to change to match this one track.
ark, you can do this in arrange-view. you can set one track to control the master timeline. this will do exactly what you want but it only works in arrange. i forget the ableton lingo for it, but i know that once a clip is in the arrange-view, you can right-click and you will see the option. ugh, sorry, maybe i'm being too vague to be helpful. i know this is a feature though. a big deal for people composing for film.
Re: OMFG FINALLY when something clicks it clicks
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:33 pm
by ark
andrewbrewer wrote:ark, you can do this in arrange-view. you can set one track to control the master timeline.
I think that works only if the track already has the right tempo automation in it.
In effect, what I am looking for is a way to convert warp markers to tempo automation.