Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by re.mark » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:44 pm

It is NOT just Session view.
The Bridge provides Ableton Transport Control (ATC), giving you turntable-style control of your own multitrack productions. Simply drag an Ableton Live Set to a deck in Scratch Live or ITCH and use your turntables, CDJ or ITCH controller to control the transport.

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by nuxnamon » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:45 pm

The Bridge provides Ableton Transport Control (ATC), giving DJs turntable-style control of their own multitrack productions. DJs can simply drag an Ableton Live Set onto one of the decks in Scratch Live or ITCH and use their turntables, CDJ or ITCH controller to control the transport.

Does this mean you have Serato control of Clips or Scenes in Session view?


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Post by glitchrock-buddha » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:47 pm

So I wonder if you can drag in second Live set into the second deck. Might be good way to mix between live sets. I also wonder if Live sets can be closed and opened without interupting the audio from Serato. Then you could at least mix one set into a temporary track to fill the space while you open another set.

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by re.mark » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:49 pm

nuxnamon wrote:Does this mean you have Serato control of Clips or Scenes in Session view?
You, in essence, import session view into Serato to control the transport of clips there. So there is no control from Serato within Live itself, but you can control clips from Live within Serato.


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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by smutek » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:53 pm

Free if you own Live 8.

I expected this, but I did hold out a fools hope that this would be compatible with Live 7. Feck it, I'm selling my whole DJ rig anyway, but I was interested to see what the deal was going to be.

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by Hidden Driveways » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 pm

re.mark wrote:
nuxnamon wrote:Does this mean you have Serato control of Clips or Scenes in Session view?
You, in essence, import session view into Serato to control the transport of clips there. So there is no control from Serato within Live itself, but you can control clips from Live within Serato.
I got the impression that they're linked as one when The Bridge is actiavted:
If you need more detail, just switch to the full Ableton Live application for complete control.

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by sebrov » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:02 pm

Can you buy Serato as a software only purchase or do you need to buy the Rane soundcard and timecoded vinyl/cds package? If so how is it as i can't find any info on the Serato site?

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by Radio Arcade » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:03 pm

sebrov wrote:Can you buy Serato as a software only purchase or do you need to buy the Rane soundcard and timecoded vinyl/cds package? If so how is it as i can't find any info on the Serato site?
the software is free mate but you need the serato box to use - so yeah - you will need to buy serato if you are into it
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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by Hidden Driveways » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:09 pm

Looking closer at the screenshot of the ATC inside of the Scratch Live GUI, it's a kind of funny marriage of Ableton's minimalistic channel faders and Serato's graphical 3D crossfader, with the knobs landing somewhere inbetween.

I'm glad they can all get along.

Dudes... I'm into this.

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by Maco » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:11 pm

This sounds to me like rewire 2.0
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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by Semuta » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:11 pm

Being a long time Serato user, there are aspects of the SSL v.2 thing that are really exciting in and of themselves, but the reallly interesting thing about the bridge is that Ableton says that it has exposed "Tight" control of the timeline via Serato.

Also, the communication regarding clip view is exposed as XML, which means that there may be new ways to extract clip names and so forth from the live set for use in other ways.

That you can dump the audio from the Serato decks into Ableton natively means that there is a ton of live looping+fx tricks you can do by using the session slots to do stuff on the fly.

Some of this implies that Serato is able to control Ableton's clock based on a track's analyzed tempo or possibly based on the transient information, so using Ableton in a beatlocked fashion for additional decks could become relatively easy.

I'm excited...

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by sebrov » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:14 pm

Radio Arcade wrote:
sebrov wrote:Can you buy Serato as a software only purchase or do you need to buy the Rane soundcard and timecoded vinyl/cds package? If so how is it as i can't find any info on the Serato site?
the software is free mate but you need the serato box to use - so yeah - you will need to buy serato if you are into it
Into it i am not. I was just thinking about the cost as i've got an Xone 4D which i use anyway when mixing with Ableton, so i'm not buying another soundcard just to get the software.

Disappointed by this project i wanted a decadance type vst or different gui in Ableton.

What i want and what i get are two completely different things!!!

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Re: Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

Post by SubFunk » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:30 pm

Do i understand correctly? there is no full midi support (if you don't want to use any vinyl/CDs or something like a VCI-100) for serato yet? anyone in the know if that is supposed to come...?

so far from what i gather, weak...

no dedicated serato/ableton small awesome light practicle usb powered dedicated controller yet? for pure DJ-ing.

double weak.

ableton, the most forward thinking audio software and you still need vinyls or CDs (something moving in rounds :roll: ) for DJ-ing with the collab?

or did i get that wrong here???
i am confused.
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