Anyone using a macbook pro with a SSD for audio?

[rosti]

Just ordered some intel SSDs for my work. Cant wait them to arrive and being able to do some performance tests. I'm going to have 2 identical toshiba laptops one with 64 gb intel SSD and one with stock 5400rmp sata drive.

[davepermen]

64gb? you ordered an x25-e? the x25-m are much cheaper, offer more storage, and have about the same reallife performance if you're not running a high end server with thousands of concurrent readwrites onto the database or something.

[#1thelark]

I would love to see a video how the ssd performs during the the Live 8 installation process.... SSD vs. HDD. Even the Installation of the Suite Demo took ages with my standard hdd.

[3phase]

just from experiance.. i had many things failing in the last years in stage work form usb cables.. laptop power supply.. daw crashes... syncinterfaces.. the good ol 303 itself... a pro one... the analog mixing desk...but never a hardisk issue.. even on a 8 years old drive no issues...
theese 2,5 inch harddrives seem to be better than theier bigger brothers.. pretty reliable..

glad you had luck so far. from statistics, hdds are the most common part of a computer to die, especially from a mobile one. seen and had to replace tons of hdds so far. and the problem? anything else that fails can be replaced, but a hdd has data that you might have lost.
then again, we all know we should have backups which is why i have to try to resque data time and time again for some clients, yes..

So i wouldnt be too woried about that, but have an extra set of cables with me all the time

i suggest both

and by the way... an standard big szise hardisk allows you to have 2 bootable partions... so when one partion fails you still can boot from the other... or an external minidrive with a bootable partion and your data backup...

so can an ssd, it's just another hdd for your machine. except it's way faster (really WAAAYYY faster), and takes away any chance of physical shaking to ever kill it (be it the 120db+ from prodigy on stage, or a dropped laptop, or what ever).

have i said WAYYYY faster yet?

some simple cases:

an old xp machine, takes 20min to start up all sort of apps. with a (crap) ssd: <2min.
a firefox config that took 1min to start (filled with addons). with a (now outdated) ssd: about 1-2 secs.

installing some crazy adobe suite took around 1-2 hours on some machine. 10min with the ssd in.

for disk intensive situations where quick response is needed (like live, triggering a clip should not create a stutter, but having to wait 8ms to just get to the clip can create one, having 0.065ms to get to it, most likely, won't). so it's a definite performance and stability increase if you have tons of clips playing, and otherwise had stutterings when you played too much stuff.

??? ther is no 20 min start up time on a mac.. and i dont know anybody that has a dead harddrive ..in all the years--

anybody with a mac book and dead harddribe issues? i guess there are some strange no name drives out thee.. but hitachi or samsung drives are pretty good..

however faster is nice.. but just 100 Gb? my 360 GB is allmost to small ... wouldnt want to do it with less...

hiwever..just a question of timme 500GB sssd are there and afordable

[davepermen]

20min time till everything's up and running != 20 min boot time. we have lot of background apps and extra apps and crapps and all at work that need to be on our machines for one reason or one-other.

i know tons that have dead harddrives even in the last some months. and yes, some are macbookers, it's not like they have a different hard drive in, dude.. (no magic fairytale-crap please).

my media center has 40gb, not even half full. my desktop has 80gb, not close to half full. my laptop has 160, about half full (needs more to rock out on stage). but my data is on a 4tb home server storage => no need for any data on a disk.

it's all about managing your environment well. then again, you don't really have all those options on a mac..

but yeah, working in the it business, i can tell you that in the company i work for right now, which uses around 5000 pc's or more, hdds are by FAR the most replaced component of a system. and as said, it's the only one that differs from all the others: it's the one your data is on. if that goes poop, you're fucked if you don't happen to have it backed up. this alone, even if it would be the least-often-damaging component of the system, would warrant getting something that is LESS in danger when you shuffle it, or drop it, or shake it, or what ever.


and yes, one hdd died after i moved it 3mm .. so it's not force that matters. it just happens quite randomly.

[3phase]

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i know tons that have dead harddrives even in the last some months. and yes, some are macbookers, it's not like they have a different hard drive in, dude.. (no magic fairytale-crap please).

??? i think you are telling bullshit.. the modern quality 2,5 driver are astonishing long lasting and and stable.. moving 3 mm ?

do you know how my external one gets moved sometimes? i wont say that they cant die... but the hard drive panic you try to create here is in harsh contrast to your Live 8 is stable preaches,,,


you seem to live in a parallel universe

[SubFunk]

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i know tons that have dead harddrives even in the last some months. and yes, some are macbookers, it's not like they have a different hard drive in, dude.. (no magic fairytale-crap please).

??? i think you are telling bullshit.. the modern quality 2,5 driver are astonishing long lasting and and stable.. moving 3 mm ?

do you know how my external one gets moved sometimes? i wont say that they cant die... but the hard drive panic you try to create here is in harsh contrast to your Live 8 is stable preaches,,,


you seem to live in a parallel universe

well, i tend to agree with dave here, drives are just plain and simple totally unpredictable... they can last forever or die within days, you simply can't tell no matter what brand or quality control or whatever...

that is simply why it is advised to always do backups (at least 2x, better 3-4x) from day 1 owning a computer, any computer with any type / brand of drive.

[davepermen]

??? i think you are telling bullshit.. the modern quality 2,5 driver are astonishing long lasting and and stable.. moving 3 mm ?

do you know how my external one gets moved sometimes? i wont say that they cant die... but the hard drive panic you try to create here is in harsh contrast to your Live 8 is stable preaches,,,


you seem to live in a parallel universe

at least in my univers live works /runsaway

no, seriously. a hdd can die from a tiny shock if it's the wrong one. and that hdd served me well to lan parties and back home, etc. but one evening, i just touched the machine as i had to move it 3-5mm, and it ran trough the night with some open downloads.

next morning i noticed that the downloads did NOT proceed since last evening. the try to reboot resulted in an instant bluescreen (it tries to save system settings and fails), and at the next restart, say hy to "no boot device found".

and unimportant if ever a hdd died to you or not, hdds are physical moving devices, ssds are NOT. ever scratched some vinyl? that can happen to a hdd. it can NOT happen to an ssd. it's a reduced attack vector => a reduced chance of failure. => a gain.

thanks for supporting me, SubFunk. and yes, my systems all autobackup when at home daily. if id' have a mac, i'd have time machine. having windows, i have windows home server, which is sort of time machine on steroids (hosting my web page, a full windows 2003 server system, but same easy backups as time machines, networked storage, media streaming, etc.. very funny thing (and pics of it on my home server.. but the web access is quite slow right now, downloading.. )

[davepermen]

btw, the different universe i life in (you know, the one where stuff works ) supports me with the fact that hard drive failure rates are quite high:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/129558/s ... imate.html

[rosti]

64gb? you ordered an x25-e? the x25-m are much cheaper, offer more storage, and have about the same reallife performance if you're not running a high end server with thousands of concurrent readwrites onto the database or something.

Oh sorry. I ordered Kingston SSDs (same as intel i think). Those are the ones that i got: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prod ... p?id=17992
I was going to get the x25-m 80gbs but those where cheaper and they are going to laptops that are used in meetings, conferences etc. to show powerpoints and such. So no super performance or large storage is needed.

[davepermen]

64gb? you ordered an x25-e? the x25-m are much cheaper, offer more storage, and have about the same reallife performance if you're not running a high end server with thousands of concurrent readwrites onto the database or something.

Oh sorry. I ordered Kingston SSDs (same as intel i think). Those are the ones that i got: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prod ... p?id=17992
I was going to get the x25-m 80gbs but those where cheaper and they are going to laptops that are used in meetings, conferences etc. to show powerpoints and such. So no super performance or large storage is needed.

no. kingston has intel ssds, TOO, but not solely.

the intels are much better than the ones you bought. but for your needs the one you got should still work fine.

you saved yourself 30€.. but for your actual purpose of the drive, that's actually good

but for any performance oriented usage (live on stage, what ever), get an intel. sure the most mature of the devices. doing a lot of stuff in the ssd world since years now actually. the biggest contributor to one of the biggest threads on notebookreview.com, the "ssd thread" (split into 4 threads by now due to server downs as it got too big ).

very much discussion about the tech, about each ssd existing, it's performance, it's problems, etc..

but the short quintessence out of this: if you want something reliable, get an intel ssd.
not that others can not be fine, too. but none really beats the intel, none is as balanced in performance applied to your actual workload needs, and none has such a big company behind itself that can do it "not for the money, but for the quality of it". unlike most others (ocz vertex f.e.).

[rosti]

^ I saved myself (well my boss) 1000€. Ordered 10 of those drives and the intel x25-m:s where 100€/pcs more.

[davepermen]

^ I saved myself (well my boss) 1000€. Ordered 10 of those drives and the intel x25-m:s where 100€/pcs more.

they're 50€ more for the same amount of storage. they have 16GB or 25% more storage.

but yeah, saved money is saved money. they should still handle their tasks fine.

[Akshara]

The stock Hitachi drive in my wife's MacBook started clicking and crashed to the sad mac icon about a year and a half in. Upgraded my MacBook Pro with a 320 GB Seagate which unexpectedly crashed about a year later. Both of us were careful and conscious with how we used them. So yeah, it happens.

However my main interest in an SSD would be to reduce heat and fan noise. Once they reach higher capacities.

[davepermen]

The stock Hitachi drive in my wife's MacBook started clicking and crashed to the sad mac icon about a year and a half in. Upgraded my MacBook Pro with a 320 GB Seagate which unexpectedly crashed about a year later. Both of us were careful and conscious with how we used them. So yeah, it happens.

However my main interest in an SSD would be to reduce heat and fan noise. Once they reach higher capacities.

and disk noise. not hearing a disk when it searches some data rattarratta is aaaawesome can't stand normal systems anymore

main gain: awesome speed, esp snappiness of any system. most happy making gains: reduced noise, reduced vibrations. most heartattack relaxing gain: less chance of error.

yeah, i know how that click sounds.. and i know how i hate it