Ableton Forum

Trypset wrote:dude, that video is sick. Mad skills there.

My comments were meant mainly towards people who mix 2 or 3 songs on Ableton, what you are doing definately deserves respect!

oratowsky wrote:"oh, so you're not really djing then?" I ask him what he means by that and he says "real DJs don't use Ableton, mate."

Johnisfaster wrote:

oratowsky wrote:"oh, so you're not really djing then?" I ask him what he means by that and he says "real DJs don't use Ableton, mate."

Technically he's right, Disk Jockeys use Disks (and no I don't think hard drive disks count). I mean a baseball player isn't a DJ either, cause he doesn't use disks.

He was probably just an angry drunk fucker being a prick for fun. Don't sweat it.

Trypset wrote:

4.33 wrote:

Trypset wrote:. When I see DJ so and so on a flyer, they better be mixing off decks, or I will be dissapointed.

what's the bloody difference?
in both cases you just put on other people tunes, be it from your record bag or your hard drive.
what's so sacred about riding the pitch fader?
utter fucking bollocks

dude come on, playing warped tracks that are pre-arranged that you made in a cafe requires way less effort and skill than beatmatching records. But if that is your perspective there is no convincing you. The difference is so huge that there is no point for me to continue my argument. What's sacred to me about riding the pitch fader is that there is always the possibility of fucking up the mix. When everything is aligned on a grid that possibility is slim to none. The outcome most definately will be close to the same no matter what medium, but that is not the point I was even trying to make.

You can't deny that fluid beatmatching in a loud as hell club with shitty or no monitors is comparable to launching pre-warped clips. Or maybe you can who knows.

I am not for one side or another as I get booked to play wax and DJ, err mix, off ableton, they are seperate sets that sound totally different. I was merely trying to help the OP understand why he might be getting such comments, but maybe he already knew why and wanted to make a thread to get others opinions.

jace_(nz) wrote:This Does seem to Be a Problem Of ignorance that more so happens in the USA or at least that is where most of the stories i here emulate from, and only maybe Becuase of the population numbers making it more inevitable that you will get some lame Comments.
I have had this discuission many times over with poeple from the Uk and most seem Quite Open to ableton and few that Dont, do soon after you explain what goes into using ableton. But that can be a big if, if you are the kind of person that uses ableton for and easy ride after you have pains-takenly warped your tracks, Or you are the kind of person who takes it as far as you can. without me going into it we all know what able is capable off. I have been a dj since back in the mid 80's, and i bypassed cd's For my love of ableton from version 4, so as others have mentioned dont take it too heart and experiment and be as hands on as you can when you play out.

All the best.

Trypset wrote:

jace_(nz) wrote:This Does seem to Be a Problem Of ignorance that more so happens in the USA or at least that is where most of the stories i here emulate from, and only maybe Becuase of the population numbers making it more inevitable that you will get some lame Comments.
I have had this discuission many times over with poeple from the Uk and most seem Quite Open to ableton and few that Dont, do soon after you explain what goes into using ableton. But that can be a big if, if you are the kind of person that uses ableton for and easy ride after you have pains-takenly warped your tracks, Or you are the kind of person who takes it as far as you can. without me going into it we all know what able is capable off. I have been a dj since back in the mid 80's, and i bypassed cd's For my love of ableton from version 4, so as others have mentioned dont take it too heart and experiment and be as hands on as you can when you play out.

All the best.

great post, being hands on and having muiltiple controllers that you tweak helps alot with people giving you a hard time. Threads like "who has actually checked their e-mail while performing" kind of go in favor of the haters but the moral is still.....don't sweat it. Keep doing your thang thang.