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^lol.

I'm going to get outraged over this issue real soon. I promise. As soon as I stop laughing.

john doe by choice wrote:How many PC's are made under the same conditions? Oh, right, ALL OF THEM

Same goes for just about everything else in the electronics world...cheap labor = maximized profit, regardless of industry, product, or brand.

Oh really? I guess it's all right then.

I always wondered how they got their products smaller and smaller.
It all makes sense now.

Keeps them off the streets and out of trouble.

Love how we outsource our labor and pollution to China. No wonder our leaders are so cozy with theirs.

djsynchro wrote:

john doe by choice wrote:How many PC's are made under the same conditions? Oh, right, ALL OF THEM

Same goes for just about everything else in the electronics world...cheap labor = maximized profit, regardless of industry, product, or brand.

Oh really? I guess it's all right then.

I didn't say it's all right, I'm just saying that if you're going on a "finger-wag at Apple for child labor" trip, be sure and point the finger at the people who made your pc, too, along with everyone else who's guilty (pretty much anyone who makes electronics).

I hope they're planting sleeper chips for denial of service on a global scale. I for one welcome our new Chinese Overlords.

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john doe by choice wrote:I didn't say it's all right, I'm just saying that if you're going on a "finger-wag at Apple for child labor" trip, be sure and point the finger at the people who made your pc, too, along with everyone else who's guilty (pretty much anyone who makes electronics).

I agree with you, although I think synchro's point has more to do with the supposed high ground Apple fanatics have taken in the past about teh wonderful superiority of Apple, when in fact they are in the same boat as all other electronics manufacturers.

ethios4 wrote:

john doe by choice wrote:I didn't say it's all right, I'm just saying that if you're going on a "finger-wag at Apple for child labor" trip, be sure and point the finger at the people who made your pc, too, along with everyone else who's guilty (pretty much anyone who makes electronics).

I agree with you, although I think synchro's point has more to do with the supposed high ground Apple fanatics have taken in the past about teh wonderful superiority of Apple, when in fact they are in the same boat as all other electronics manufacturers.

Eh, it's just another Apple hater trying to find some other reason to hate on Apple. Apple's been promoting their recyclable components but I've never heard them claim that their manufacturing morals are any higher than any other electronics manufacturer. In fact it should just be assumed that any company that moves their manufacturing to China is going to have some labor practices that not everybody agrees with. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a company with manufacturing in Asia that is a shining example of workforce moral code.

Bleep Blop Ima Robot wrote:go apple, work those children

+1

Seeing as Apple commissioned the audit in the first place, the posting of this thread is classic Dutch trolling by the dude whose Ableton Live "Just doesn't work" (TM).

*Pfffftttt* spits fairtrade arabica coffee all over self in shock.
*Tsk Tsk Tsk* he thinks as turns back into Starbucks to get another coffee.
*Ka Ching* pays more than the coffee farmer earns that month.

*grumble grumble* searches in vain for new pair of jeans not made by underpaid workers in sweat shop.

didn't apple send someone to assinate one of it's employees in china for losing a iphone prototype.. yeah, i twisted the story, but I think last they said he commited suicide or something.. Don't mess with apple

The dead worker, Sun Danyong, 25, worked in product communications at Foxconn Technology Group, a Taiwanese firm that makes many Apple products at a massive factory in the southern city of Shenzhen, near Hong Kong.
Sun was responsible for sending iPhone prototypes to Apple, and on July 13 he reported that he was missing one of the 16 fourth-generation units in his possession, the newspaper reported. His friends said company security guards searched his apartment, detained him and beat him, the paper reported.

Apple Inc. responded Wednesday by saying its suppliers are required to treat workers with dignity and respect.

nuxnamon wrote:Apple Inc. responded Wednesday by saying its suppliers are required to beat workers with dignity and respect.

Fixed.