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What really gets me interested is music with both elements. Amon Tobin. http://www.amontobin.com/

His last album will blow your mind!

everyone always thinks that what they're doing is soo much better than everyone else's.

what a bore

don't like it?

make something else

chewy wrote:Is there anyone out there who's willing to spend a little extra time and a little effort to create a melody?

Yes. Most important bit of money spent recently was some music lessons on keyboard.
Was so much more productive when i first started getting in to music, learned the drums, joined a band, had some end product.

Getting lost(too deep)in sound design killed my music.

Though melody isn't that important.
If it has soul then it doesnt matter what it consists of.

Frankly I'm sick of Wobble-U and 90% of this garbage lately on BeatDork.

I'm in the camp that, without melody, there is no soul. I strive for funk and soul in my music and the music I play.

Just sayin'

Im down with the glitch, but I have to say the wobble has become so played out and overdone that whenever I hear one...I just hit stop.

Sucks too because I used to be big into dnb and really like some dubstep, but it all has been totally saturated with generic wobbble to the point of disgust. Sure years ago it had its value, and it still does if used right, but lately its usage is about as annoying as an over the top cheesy trance lead. Once in awhile someone gets one right, but beyond that...*puke*

how about this: http://trifonic.bandcamp.com/track/lies

stumbled across this after checking out the Trifonica Abe videos - killer vocal melody, glitch IDM mannerisms, and some crystal clear guitar - rather nice!

To some degree I can understand this harsh statement. I´m in the same boat. In surfing Beatport it really takes a lot of time to filter out some melodic tunes
with no bubblegum feeling. Deep, lasting melodies.

I listen to film scores, neo classical and some deep electronica with some sort of wide pads. Gives me comfort in these hectic surroundings. I don´t need mechanized sounds that try to emphazise the rushed up feeling of our times. I think that´s the point. At least to me.

If the female voice on these tracks weren´t so ..... too much I could have bought this piece of music. Feels a little like Lamb and sparse TTA combined.

I got my ipod with the following records on.
Johan Söderqvist - Tannöd
Kryptic Minds - One Of Us
ICR - Something about Nothing

All 3 records are different from each other but they all manage to show me a place of comfort when I close my eyes. They are humble and respectful friends in a way.
That´s what I miss in most of the D´n´B-tracks made by Subfocus or the Pendulum guys. They are fabulous technicians but they don´t show their musical skills as they could do.

There are great artists out there but obviously most of the people like music that screams to them. You need to dig deep but it´s there. It´s certainly better to look for some good music
than to complain about the bad apples, which are not just a few, granted.

ChiDJ wrote:Frankly I'm sick of Wobble-U and 90% of this garbage lately on BeatDork.

I'm in the camp that, without melody, there is no soul. I strive for funk and soul in my music and the music I play.

Just sayin'

I endorse this message.

What I find hillarious about this topic is, that pressing some of the links in the sigs at the people rooting for more melody and soul in music, you get directed straight in to trancy/dancy club music, without a single melodic frase in it. Dear friends, making a bassline or a synth stab at cuepoints is not a melody! The most glitch stuff out there is actually the most melodic within electronic music (Aphex, Squarepusher, Jaga Jazzist, Prefuse 73 ect.).

Take it easy, make music, don't nag.

Toneklang

toneklang wrote:What I find hillarious about this topic is, that pressing some of the links in the sigs at the people rooting for more melody and soul in music, you get directed straight in to trancy/dancy club music, without a single melodic frase in it. Dear friends, making a bassline or a synth stab at cuepoints is not a melody! The most glitch stuff out there is actually the most melodic within electronic music (Aphex, Squarepusher, Jaga Jazzist, Prefuse 73 ect.).

Take it easy, make music, don't nag.

Toneklang

+1

dmcm wrote:

toneklang wrote:What I find hillarious about this topic is, that pressing some of the links in the sigs at the people rooting for more melody and soul in music, you get directed straight in to trancy/dancy club music, without a single melodic frase in it. Dear friends, making a bassline or a synth stab at cuepoints is not a melody! The most glitch stuff out there is actually the most melodic within electronic music (Aphex, Squarepusher, Jaga Jazzist, Prefuse 73 ect.).

Take it easy, make music, don't nag.

Toneklang

+1

I'd like to be removed from the list of hypocrites. Except certain segments of the first track on my myspace page. I'll give you that.

beats me wrote: I'd like to be removed from the list of hypocrites.

Not so fast!

beats me wrote:I really don't see the point of trying to manually micromanage all your glitches when there are plenty of plug-in options that will do the heavy lifting for you. The whole premise of glitch is happy mistakes.

I agree with recording the random results of these plugs and then scavenging the treasures from those recordings.

dum wrote:

beats me wrote: I'd like to be removed from the list of hypocrites.

Not so fast!

beats me wrote:I really don't see the point of trying to manually micromanage all your glitches when there are plenty of plug-in options that will do the heavy lifting for you. The whole premise of glitch is happy mistakes.

I agree with recording the random results of these plugs and then scavenging the treasures from those recordings.

I was referring to the part about a lot of people in this thread writing souless dance music without melody.

I don't write glitch-centric music but sometimes use that sound as an accent in some songs, and to that purpose I'm fine with plug-ins doing the work for me.

Which is ironic, because you advise those pursuing the glitchy microedit genre to be lazy, and to scavenge through the output of generic buffer plugs.

Seems at odds with what you're saying in this thread on the topic of soul etc



You're staying on that list buddy!