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ChiDJ wrote:

Ben_Binary wrote:http://www.junodownload.com

I was on Juno last night. I went through about 50 pages of new releases in Electro House. It was mostly bunk. No better than BeefPork.

I'll check out whatpeopleplay.com tonight.

I miss the Record Stores.

First let me say I dig your tracks, fo realz yo.

But I wouldn't blame the artists/site/labels when the genre could be blamed. It's probably the most basic and formulaic of the bunch: House beat, phat saturated bass, season with some voice/vocal snippets and breakdowns, done. With some decent production skills, a sense of groove, and a Moog (hardware or emulation) you could quickly crank a song out that fits all rules and expectations of the genre. Thus no standout tracks.

It's a dance floor filler and I could probably listen to an Electro DJ mix for hours on end and each song is the shit, but it's a relatively stagnant and predictable level of being the shit.

I blame easily available music software and vsts.

both cracked and legit.

beats me wrote:

ChiDJ wrote:

Ben_Binary wrote:http://www.junodownload.com

I was on Juno last night. I went through about 50 pages of new releases in Electro House. It was mostly bunk. No better than BeefPork.

I'll check out whatpeopleplay.com tonight.

I miss the Record Stores.

First let me say I dig your tracks, fo realz yo.

But I wouldn't blame the artists/site/labels when the genre could be blamed. It's probably the most basic and formulaic of the bunch: House beat, phat saturated bass, season with some voice/vocal snippets and breakdowns, done. With some decent production skills, a sense of groove, and a Moog (hardware or emulation) you could quickly crank a song out that fits all rules and expectations of the genre. Thus no standout tracks.

It's a dance floor filler and I could probably listen to an Electro DJ mix for hours on end and each song is the shit, but it's a relatively stagnant and predictable level of being the shit.

Thank you Bro!

But I whole heartedly disagree. The problem is not the genre. I love funky house, electro house, tribal and even some tech house. This shit they're selling is not groovy or funky or hooky. It's Nasty poorly written wobble-U and Dutch Trance Crap. (my apologies to the Dutchies ). I just have a sound and style that is very hard for me to find ATM. I'll give you my favs:

Bart B. More
Spencer and Hill
Bushido and Santiago
Tony Puccio
Nuvart
Bingo Players
Chocolate Puma
Robbie Rivera
Sebastian Ingrosso
Dada
Green Velvet
and me.

I'm trying to do a promo CD to get more international gigs and I can't find enough tracks for an hour. Let alone resume my weekly podcasts.

I just have to dig deeper. That's what makes this shit rewarding. When you find your vibe and it moves you it will, most likely move others.

Off to search some more...

Peace!

Tod

I miss the Record Stores.

It's like a half day holiday today so i bunked off into SoHo to check out what's left of the shops.

Went in 3 new new vinyl shops and 2 secondhand. Listened to over 30 records.

Came home with 2. I new and 1 used. Mildy better hit rate than on-line.

Well pleased with my day even though it was raining. Met someone I hadn't seen in 5 years. Got a haircut.

RonaldDumsfeld wrote:

I miss the Record Stores.

It's like a half day holiday today so i bunked off into SoHo to check out what's left of the shops.

Went in 3 new new vinyl shops and 2 secondhand. Listened to over 30 records.

Came home with 2. I new and 1 used. Mildy better hit rate than on-line.

Well pleased with my day even though it was raining. Met someone I hadn't seen in 5 years. Got a haircut.

Sounds like you had a good day my Brotha.

anyone catch that Secondhand Sureshots video on Pitchfork TV? AFAIK it was "one week only" so you can't watch it without buying it but it makes me want to start diggin thru records instead of being on the internet.

ChiDJ wrote:

Ben_Binary wrote:http://www.junodownload.com

I was on Juno last night. I went through about 50 pages of new releases in Electro House. It was mostly bunk.

I'll take your word for it.

ChiDJ wrote:No better than BeefPork.

Nah... maybe its the genre then ? (i.e. whats released atm)

ChiDJ wrote: I miss the Record Stores.

Juno is a record store. thats one of the reasons they are better quality than BeefPork

beats me wrote:
First let me say I dig your tracks, fo realz yo.

+1

You are obviously a little more interesting than most of the producers on those 50 pages...

ChiDJ wrote:
Thank you Bro!

But I whole heartedly disagree. The problem is not the genre. I love funky house, electro house, tribal and even some tech house. This shit they're selling is not groovy or funky or hooky. It's Nasty poorly written wobble-U and Dutch Trance Crap. (my apologies to the Dutchies ). I just have a sound and style that is very hard for me to find ATM. I'll give you my favs:

Bart B. More
Spencer and Hill
Bushido and Santiago
Tony Puccio
Nuvart
Bingo Players
Chocolate Puma
Robbie Rivera
Sebastian Ingrosso
Dada
Green Velvet
and me.

I'm trying to do a promo CD to get more international gigs and I can't find enough tracks for an hour. Let alone resume my weekly podcasts.

I just have to dig deeper. That's what makes this shit rewarding. When you find your vibe and it moves you it will, most likely move others.

Off to search some more...

Peace!

Tod

Fair enough if you're saying the same shitty uninspired garbage is coming out of all genres.

I also agree with funky shit about everybody getting their hands on music software for free or cheap when you compare it to the hardware only days. But also to water things down further there used to be a time when a label was also a building with people. Now it's very simple for the artist and the label to be one in the same with little to no cred.

ChiDJ wrote:

Ben_Binary wrote:http://www.junodownload.com

I was on Juno last night. I went through about 50 pages of new releases in Electro House. It was mostly bunk. No better than BeefPork.

I'll check out whatpeopleplay.com tonight.

I miss the Record Stores.

I still go to the Drop Shop in Orlando FL. They are a much needed commodity for the scene. (Lol at BeefPork, we need names for all the sites now)

so i guess you wont be buying any beatport designer t-shirts then?
http://beatportbrandshop.com/shirt-i-love-djing.php

I dont think I can remember a time that I didn't feel like I was sifting through mounds of garbage to find the gems. Difference now is that instead of having to spend entire days at the record shop, I can do it in my underwear at home

Donnie wrote:I dont think I can remember a time that I didn't feel like I was sifting through mounds of garbage to find the gems. Difference now is that instead of having to spend entire days at the record shop, I can do it in my underwear at home

Who says I don't go to the record store in my underwear?

ChiDJ wrote:I miss the Record Stores.

Is there not as many record stores in Chi? I'm hearin' that thrift stores are where it's at these days..

Donnie wrote:I dont think I can remember a time that I didn't feel like I was sifting through mounds of garbage to find the gems.

+1

and it is great that way!

a) many different people, many different tastes,
one mans art is the next mans crap
(just check out the soundcloud down there if you do not believe me )


b) it gives us a sense of accomplishment, and the time to savour our findings.

imagine every single record that came out would be a gem?
wich one is the über-gem-jam?
is it this one? or that one?
fuck, if I listen to this gem i will miss out on hundreds of others....

quite the horror, no?