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Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:19 pm
by re.mark
mikemc wrote:re.mark wrote:
Played in Arpegio-style (not sure of the correct term).
Then it is not a chord, it is a MELODY. Really, the theory review is in order...
Regardless, I am still trying to find out the name of the chord of those notes played simultaneously.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:22 pm
by re.mark
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:23 pm
by deanc2000
If the chord seems to hold alot of tension when played, which seems to resolve to the tonic chord (ie the I chord), it's probably in the Major key, as the IV chord acts as a dominant chord, but not as dominant as the V.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:45 pm
by ze2be
Thanks! Thats one of the positive sides quicktime. Previewing general midi!
As mikemc says though, its still not in context with other cords. But I didnt ask for this, you are way nicer then you need to be here! No need to give further attention to this. Im just being a curious rat.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:50 pm
by Fizmarble
beats me wrote:If you have Logic you can just press those notes on your controller and it tells you exactly what chord it is at the bottom by default.
That is freakin' cool.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:54 pm
by re.mark
beats me wrote:If you have Logic you can just press those notes on your controller and it tells you exactly what chord it is at the bottom by default.
haha yeaa tis cool
shame its only on the 'to-buy' list
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:56 pm
by deanc2000
If F was the root,
then you could call it F minor 7, add 9. Then it would be the IV chord in the Key of C minor.
In the key of E flat major, It would be the II chord, but II chords are hardly every used.
So anyway, the notes could have several labels. If the chord acts as a dominant chord in a major key, it's probably A flat major, if dominant in a minor key, it's probably the Fm chord.
D.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:05 pm
by re.mark
deanc2000 wrote:If F was the root,
then you could call it F minor 7, add 9. Then it would be the IV chord in the Key of C minor.
In the key of E flat major, It would be the II chord, but II chords are hardly every used.
So anyway, the notes could have several labels. If the chord acts as a dominant chord in a major key, it's probably A flat major, if dominant in a minor key, it's probably the Fm chord.
D.
Interesting to know, greatly appreciate your help!!!
Think F is the root, as its what instinctively sounds best.
Thanks
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:29 pm
by deanc2000
You may want to try the G minor chord (G, Bflat, D) plus or minus 7 or 9 (F or A flat). It is the V chord and is thus way more dominant than the IV chord.
IV, V, and VII chords act in "dominant" ways, with the V chord being most dominant, ie most tension and with the most feeling of resolution to the I chord. II, and VI chords are more "tonic".
D.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:42 pm
by Lazos
mikemc wrote:re.mark wrote:
Played in Arpegio-style (not sure of the correct term).
Then it is not a chord, it is a MELODY. Really, the theory review is in order...
Arpeggiated chords are just that: "arpeggiated." It's still a chord
Put that midi file into Live, fire up a synth and you should be able to play a nice "melody" over top of the arpeggiated chords. There's two chords to my ears. Nice btw!
To my ears, it is shifting between Fm9 and Db(maj). The "key" in Western terms would be Fm. Also, unless one is a theory major in college, no one should care what the functional harmonic analysis would be.
Just my 2 cents.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:52 pm
by deanc2000
Well, If it's D flat, then it's a key with 4 flats, which is a different story. Then it would be the keys of either A flat major or F minor.
One has to have a clear number of sharps or flats. This gives you the key, and the tonic chord sound gives you which one, major or minor.
I haven't heard the midi file since I'm at work, but if the tonic seems like a minor chord, then it's the minor key.
D.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:02 pm
by bagginz
deanc2000 wrote:If F was the root,
then you could call it F minor 7, add 9.
O.k I'll bite...
Though chord nomenclature is not totally standardised, assuming F is the lowest note it would actually be written
F minor9 on almost all chord charts.
Though technically speaking it
should include the fifth (C), the fifth is often the first note to be dropped, as it's not essential to the tonal flavour of the chord.
The add Add9 tag implies a third but no seventh.
deanc2000 wrote:
In the key of E flat major, It would be the II chord,
Correct.
Or the VI chord in Ab major... Or the IV chord in C minor... Or the I chord in F minor....
deanc2000 wrote:
but II chords are hardly every used.
Maybe not in your musical world, but II chords are
most certainly used in the rest of the musical universe.
In fact I cannot think of
one single jazz tune that does not use the II chord.
To the OP:
Try making a vamp on just the Fmin9 and creating a melody which emphasises or resolves to the ninth (g) note...
Cheers,
bagginz
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:09 pm
by beats me
re.mark wrote:beats me wrote:If you have Logic you can just press those notes on your controller and it tells you exactly what chord it is at the bottom by default.
haha yeaa tis cool
shame its only on the 'to-buy' list
Just sayin if I was at home and not work I could have answered your question in like 2 seconds instead of this 2 page thread on speculation and other theory windbaggery.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:10 pm
by Lazos
deanc2000 wrote:Well, If it's D flat, then it's a key with 4 flats, which is a different story. Then it would be the keys of either A flat major or F minor.
One has to have a clear number of sharps or flats. This gives you the key (either major or minor), and the tonic chord gives you which one, major or minor.
D.
Sorry, but IMVHO music is music. You don't have to have a clear number of anything.
It's only the common practice-era theorists that have to have their musical world neat and tidy like that. Take a listen to Turkish, Arabic, Persian, or Balinese music, for example. Or for more Western-minded folks, the music of John Cage, John Luther Adams, Claude Debussy, or Harry Partch.
Re: Musicians - What is this Chord???
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:13 pm
by Lazos
beats me wrote: windbaggery.